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Monday, 11 January 2016

Enough is enough (2)

Ugandans take part in an anti-gay protest in Kampala. The Church of Uganda has been
prominent in the Anglican realignment movement. Source: Independent AFP/Getty

From Christian Today:

Church must repent of 'second class' treatment of gays, Anglican leaders warn Primates:

More than 100 Anglicans including the Dean of St Paul's have written a letter to the Archbishops of Canterbury and York, urging repentance for "second class citizens" treatment of gay people as the leaders of the 38 provinces of the Anglican Communion meet in Canterbury today in the hope of avoiding further schism of the Church.

The cheek of it. Reminiscent of the campaigns for the ordination of women priests and bishops under the 'second class citizen' banner, many commentators who read this blog will find the claim hard to swallow again. Far from being second class citizens gay people are very much in evidence at all levels in the Church in England and Wales and in one diocese very well known to commentators they hold sway.

In my Enough is enough entry on Bonfire Day in 2012 I included a video in which the Bishop of Worcester claimed that if the measure to allow women bishops did not pass it would be a disaster for the Church's mission. Poppycock! Passing the measure was the disaster, aligning the Church of England and Church in Wales with the ultra liberal US Episcopal Church (TEC). Feminism has become entrenched leading to ever more relaxation.

Women priests, women bishops, gay bishops, same-sex relationships and gay marriage have nothing to do with the mission of the Church. It is all about seeking the blessing of the Church to justify personal preference at the expense of Mission .

There are 80 million Anglicans worldwide. The minority who live in Great Britain are no longer representative of the Anglican Communion. If anyone needs to repent it is these self-interested minorities.


  1. It's a bit rich pleading to having been treated as a 'second class citizen'!
    We all know that there is a significant number of homosexual clergy in the Anglican Communion.
    Do you know that each time I come face to face with a gay clergyman I really don't want to have to acknowledge in my mind that this is the case. There is then the risk if my mind ' running riot' !
    All I desire to acknowledge is that this man is a canonically ordained priest and as such has been given the gift of the Holy Spirit and is able to administer the Sacraments to the laity.
    I do have an opinion with regard to homosexual practices , but I do not want to forced to think about it, by means of being part of a corporate 'apology'.

  2. In addition ,whatever the Anglican primates might declare , there is not likely to be a change in the law of the African countries and the Indian sub-continent where homosexuality is illegal. A declaration in terms of an apology will only serve to alienate Christianity in these countries, and ,by reason of the policy,will give extremist Islam another reason to persecute Christians.
    Why are not the Anglican primates concerning themselves more vigorously with regard to the starving persecuted Christians in the Middle East countries ?

  3. Here in the U.S., the Episcopal church has reclassified homosexual behavior from a sin to a blessing. That is something for which the Church should repent as well.

    Now, if I could just convince the Church to bless my sins too...

  4. Stop the Abuse of Office14 January 2016 at 23:47

    A nice poke in the eye for Barry Morgan and his 'anything goes' mantra.
    A statement from Anglican leaders in Canterbury acknowledged "deep differences" over the understanding of marriage but said the Episcopal Church's approval of gay marriage was "a fundamental departure from the faith and teaching" of the majority of Anglicans.
    The Church leaders added that the majority of those gathered at the meeting would "reaffirm" the teaching of scripture that "upholds marriage as between a man and a woman".

    1. So will the Church in Wales be the next one to be sanctioned?

    2. Doubtful.
      His ++Irrelevance and Welby are thick as thieves and Wales is a bit too close to home.
      Bully boy Bazza just might organise a few 'camp'ers to set up tents on Welby's front garden.