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Tuesday, 4 June 2019

Jill Duff to be new bishop of Monmouth?





In response to a previous post about the election of the new Bishop of Monmouth a commentator wrote, "Its an open secret that this will be Jill Duff."

If Jill joins Joanna and June it will be reminiscent of the appointment of the first woman bishop in Wales after it had been widely rumoured that Canon Joanna Penberthy would be the next bishop of St Davids following the retirement of the Rt Rev Wyn Evans.

Initially the rumour seemed absurd, designed to wind up orthodox Anglicans until the grubby manipulation of the electoral process for political purposes became obvious.

Archbishop Barry Morgan stage managed his announcement of the 'election' by lining up nine adults on the bank overlooking the Afon Alun outside St Davids Cathedral as if parading before a firing squad. On the archbishop's command they were to applaud the announcement but eager to please their master, some jumped the gun like nervous squaddies.

The archbishop went on to justify Penberthy's appointment saying that it was "really important" to stress that "Joanna wasn’t elected because she was a woman but because she was deemed to be the best person to be a bishop. She has considerable gifts – she is an excellent preacher and communicator, can relate to all sections of the community, is a warm, charismatic, caring priest and someone who is full of joy."

I doubt that recipients of her Dear John letter would agree with that description but, then, Morgan always was opinionated if nothing else.

By contrast fellow feminists will be delighted with Joanna's policy of parity although overkill would be a better description when in comes to St Davids Cathedral which is being turned into a feminist paradise with a token male priest to do most of the work.

There is more than enough evidence of the dismal failure of the first two women bishops to turn things around. There has also been experimentation and there has been profligacy. Evidence enough that the bench needs the inclusion of a man of God inspired by the Holy Spirit not by the spirit of the age.

Postscript [11.06.2019]

The Electoral College will meet on 17 September 2019 with the chance of electing the 11th, and possibly the last, bishop of Monmouth. Assuming Dr Duff has not already been chosen in the manner of the bishop of St Davids, given the divisions caused by a few disgruntled clergy favoured by the retiring bishop, the decision may have to pass to the bench to impose their own nominee. The flavour of the bench indicates that would be another disaster waiting to happen.

21 comments:

  1. How can it be that it is an open secret - are the electors all disclosing how they will vote? Considering any appointment needs a super majority of two-thirds I challenge the premise that it is a done deal.

    I appeal to the electors, have your say- if you want +Lancaster to be translated to Monmouth then so be it, but exercise your constitutional right to express your preference as you are directed by the Spirit.

    Seeing that people are looking to England to fill the vacancy may I respectfully suggest +Burnley, if he is willing.

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    1. Whamab, it is a lovely idea that the Holy Spirit will be involved in the next Electoral College. It is highly commendable even. Yet I suspect that the Bench sitters will be looking for a stooge to bring a private members bill to GB in September to disqualify any elector who dares to try and involve the Holy Spirit in the election of a bishop. The idea that a godly man or woman chosen by the Holy Spirit might take a place among them would be enough to give the all apoplexy.
      Seymour

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    2. Directed by the Spirit?
      How naiive can you be Whamab?
      As was revealed by the Llandaff Electoral College that leaked like a sieve, the Holy Ghost didn't get a say.
      The only directing going on is Darth --Insidious pulling the levers and strings Oz-like from his technology room in Llys Ego up in Whitchurch.
      And the Electors to whom you have appealed, who selects and appoints them?
      Constitutional rights, independence, independent thought and will, in the Church in Wales?
      Have your learned nothing from the Blog over the last decade?

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    3. Why Jill Duff? Possibly because
      -husband in charge of St Padarn's?
      -already made assistant bishop in St Asaph?
      -name being circulated at previous GB meeting?
      -just started a Welsh course?
      Postie

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  2. Alwyn from Abertawe4 June 2019 at 16:20

    Cone on, AB. You are acknowledged to be an informed commentator on C in W affairs (in both senses!), so is this some kind of belated April Fool? This would just tip Monmouth over the edge, and create huge division and resentment. It is, in every sense, a Duff story.

    Next thing, you'll be expecting us to believe a whisper I heard recently that Jonathan Williams had been lobbying hard for Richard Pain before the last election in 2013!

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  3. "At the end of my fifth year and final year at Trinity, one of our most gifted students, Phil Potter, mentioned to me in passing that there was a lot of talk about me becoming Bishop of Bath and Wells. I was flabbergasted to learn this...." (George Carey. Know the Truth p92)
    I think Jill might be flabbergasted to have been mentioned in connection with this post

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  4. PP. All this speculation, intrigue and conspiracy. CinW is become MI5 Cymru! Surely, we have to believe that the Holy Spirit is and should be the umpire of our faith. If not, no matter who is pulling the levers, and the bench spin Doctor, the Holy Spirit will bring down those strongholds, that are out of step.
    As for Bishop Duff, surely given her recent appointment her loyalty has to be towards Blackburn. Perhaps her spouse will move to England, that would be a turn up.

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    1. PP, the Holy Spirit abandoned the Church in Wales years ago, when the false shepherds decided to abandon the catholic and apostolic teaching of the Church. Jesus taught that the Holy Spirit would remind us of his teaching. Do you honestly believe that the pernicious doctrines spouted by the Bench are of the Holy Spirit, and in line with the teachings of Jesus? The Church in Wales is where Satan has his throne, and that is why the ramblings of the Bench sitters sound nothing like the teaching of the Lord.
      Seymour

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  6. Given that on May 3rd Jill Duff said on her Twitter feed that she was pleased that the Jackson motion trying to bar the future ordination of traditionalists was voted down at GB - and +Bangor took her task in reply on the ensuing thread - it is unlikely that she would 'fit in on the Welsh Bench'. If +Bangor 'blackballs' her along with a few other stooges, it probably ain't going to happen ..

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  7. I don't think "Andy Crap" could be seen to 'black ball' Jill Duff - unless his continued transformation from Conservative Evangelical to "liberal catholic" culminates in his ascension to the See of Monmouth. If Jill Duff is appointed, it will ensure that the Llandaff/Monmouth merger does go ahead.

    Ancient Briton's penultimate paragraph doesn't ring particularly true from my own (and a number of the faithful's) understanding of the current situation in the Cathedral Church of St Davids. If by "most of the work", you refer to any "pastoral ministry", then there is no work apparent what-so-ever.

    What is taking place there now is nothing short of scandalous: reactionary tactics based on those who either have no understanding of the ways, traditions and indeed, the necessary tact and diplomacy needed in a parochial setting, let alone the unique juxtaposition that St Davids faces as parish church/Cathedral/Spiritual Shrine of the Welsh Church. Those holding positions can't be wholly blamed, but they need to buck up their ideas before they end up alienating those who worship, visit and support the mission of it.
    DewiResistance

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  8. DPM. We have not even had the farewell Eucharist for +Richard at Abergavenny Priory and the squabbles for his successor has begun. Shameful for a once effective church

    The whole saga of the province would make a wonderful Panorama expos'e and and a great new project for Russell T Davies, as the reality is certainly fictional if it was not so very true.

    Where is Mr Shipman? Probably completely cheesed off with the reality of church politics in Wales. I wonder if any other denomination has such a tragic picture.

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  9. Googling from Gwent5 June 2019 at 18:55

    Forget Andy Crap, too. He is too much of a mercurial personality, with a rather dark and vindictive streak. The last thing Monmouth needs after this episode is someone who broods on paranoid resentment about people who dare to challenge his opinions and incompetence. Hence the Trumpesque speed with which he took to Twitter to contradict Jill Duff. By the way, I don't think she is the right person at all. I can elaborate if anyone wants to know more.

    In the meantime, interesting to read Alwyn's comment, above, about Jonathan Williams being the cheer-leader for Richard Pain in 2013. More than one person has mentioned this in recent weeks. One, an elector from a diocese due North of Monmouth, has a very interesting story about JW almost instructing them to elect +RP.

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    1. GfG, may I take you up on your offer to elaborate?

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  10. Escaped Across the Border7 June 2019 at 09:25

    I'm very happy to confirm what Googling from Gwent says about Jonathan Williams in 2013. I was at a meeting where we were told to forget about anyone from outside the Diocese and put an X next to Richard Pain. Anyone other than +Richard (as he became) would be a disaster, insisted JW.

    Obviously +Richard didn't keep his side of the bargain in this electoral pact, and JW decided to go for the jugular. I'm struggling to find an appropriate (and printable) adjective to describe it...

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  11. Travelling in Italy at the moment. I've just heard a rumour that The Mother in God has now decreed that no cleric may call themselves Father ! I'd be glad to hear more!!!!!!

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  12. Sorry, that's the Llandaff Mother.

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  13. Readers may be interested to see Mother Jill celebrating the Eucharist on Pentecost Sunday.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m0005xjw/pentecost-2019-spirit-break-out-a-celebration-for-pentecost

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    1. I have received two replies from Pilgrimprogress in response to the above link. Both are linked to commercial sites so the first was deleted after a moderation check because, as is clearly stated in the introductory 'Blog notes', "If pseudonyms are linked to commercial sites comments will be removed as spam".

      By accident or design anonymous critics often omit a pseudonym or link their comment to a commercial site then complain that their comments have been suppressed because they express a contrary view. That is not true.

      This is the comment without the commercial link:
      "Thank you AB. I found this a truly inspirational act of worship appropriate for the season of Pentecost. I applaud +Jill for not going to the service all mitred up as that would have been a distraction. Great to see someone liturgical sensitivity in action. A fabulous, spirit-filled service. Wonderful."

      Inspirational or not, Dr Duff is referred to in Edition 509 of Anglican Unscripted @9.30
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=11&v=fpYAt1UKv-g
      Bishop Givin Ashenden had listened to her speaking. He was 'taken aback' by what she claimed. George Conger likened Dr Duff's approach to that of the Chief Executive of a failing company would say if it were trying to stop its shareholders foreclosing on it. "Everything is absolutely fine. Just give us a bit more time."

      Time is running out.

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