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Monday 8 July 2019

Anglicanism in England and Wales today


No pun intended?                                                                 Source: Twitter @guardian


From the Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby:

"Great fun celebrating 25 years of women's ordination to the priesthood at @lambethpalace today!
We're here at Lambeth. Behind me you can see priests and indeed deacons from all over the country who have come to celebrate 25 years since the ordination of women to the priesthood began in the Church of England. We've had great fun, it's been a very happy gathering and we're going to press on."

Great fun and happiness for some but hell for others as the Church of England presses on, abandoning her commitment to 'mutual flourishing'. Such commitments are easily dropped after goals have been achieved.

Pressing on means unpicking the agreement that let loose ordained women in the Anglican Church.

Pressing on means excluding anyone who does not conform to the new regime.

As strident 'Eves' seek their own fulfilment at the expense of others, countless 'Marys' who have followed the example of the mother of God, serving others rather than themselves, have been forgotten after nurturing the young in the faith and providing continuity in the Church for generations. They have been cast out by women who constantly celebrate their own 'success' on social media while leaving the vanquished to fend for themselves as best they can. Great fun!

The establishment is complicit. Mutual flourishing was simply used as a device to win the debate in the same way that 'Shared Conversations' are being used to advance the LGBT+ agenda in the Church.

 Figures published by Anglican Ink answer the question put to the CofE General Synod, Who has flourished under mutual flourishing? 

Since the enactment of the legislation in 2014:
• 22 women have been ordained Bishop;
• 4 women have been appointed Deans
• 23 women have been appointed Archdeacons
• 31 women have been appointed Residentiary Canons

The diversity monitoring data for those appointed to senior roles since that time indicates that:
• 1 diocesan bishop;
• 2 suffragan bishops; and
• 1 archdeacon
identify themselves as either traditional catholic or conservative evangelical. However, the labels which people use to describe their church tradition do not necessarily correlate with whether they are unable for theological reasons to recognise the priestly or episcopal ministry of women.

In Wales the situation is even more dire.

In the latest edition of New Directions, the former Chairman of Credo Cymru, Jeffrey Gainer, writes about the Church in Wales "Then and Now". He considers the challenges facing traditional Christians in Wales.

I quote:

"It should surprise nobody then that some younger clergy have gone elsewhere, some to England and some to other communions. The numbers are not large, but they are significant signs of the narrowing of the basis of Anglican fellowship in Wales where the bishops have throughout refused to provide any structural provision for traditionalists even though the innovations in sacramental life and teaching that they have promoted have made the inherited structures less unifying. The sense of collegiality between bishops and clergy is reduced in some instances and some clergy from Wales renew their ordination vows by attending chrism masses outside the province as result. This practice has developed after the Provincial Assistant Bishop, who ministered to traditionalist clergy and laity, was not replaced after his retirement in 2008. No theological explanation for this decision was given then or since; there was no consultation with Credo Cymru, the organization representing traditionalists. Recently, the relatively new Archbishop of Wales, acting on behalf of the whole bench of bishops, declined to meet with representatives of the same organization to discuss matters of concern and argued that the positions of both sides were evident. It was simply a matter of episcopal fiat again. Likewise, at the most recent meeting of the Governing Body, held at Cardiff, the archbishop stated publicly that the code of practice was purely in the hands of the bishops, and could be torn up tomorrow should they so wish.

"...the Church in Wales is similar to other Anglican provinces from North America to Australasia which have striven to commend their claims by accepting the social mores of the societies in which they are set and have ended up being ignored as offering very little that is distinctive. Especially since the major social changes of the 1960s all churches in Western Christianity have had to confront the issue of the extent to which they challenge or conform to profound change in attitudes and behaviour. As has been remarked by many, the fault lines in belief and practice nowadays do not run so much between denominations as within them. It might be supposed that Anglicanism with its inherited patterns of diverse churchmanship might be better equipped to face this challenge but that is a claim that is more optimistic than accurate. In fact, the Anglican churches have found that whilst engaging with contemporary culture they have been tempted to capitulate to that culture. Part of the reason may be that without a strong centre such as the Papacy, they are tempted to follow the model of provincial autonomy. The Lambeth Conference has failed to fulfil the role of securing eucharistic communion and mutual recognition of ordained ministries, a clear sign of a breakdown in common faith. After all, in 2008 a third of the Anglican episcopate did not even attend the Conference which also did not issue teaching, say on the family, as the 1958 Conference had done. What has ensued is a pragmatic acquiescence in provincial autonomy. In Wales this has led within a few years to unilateral innovations affecting the administration of the sacraments.

"Some may suppose that the recent rejection of a private member's motion at the Governing Body points in a different direction. It is true that Archdeacon Peggy Jackson's motion  was heavily defeated after ten speakers criticised its attempt  to bar traditionalists from access to the ordination process. However, what should not be missed is that not one bishop voted against this illiberal proposal and that two of their number, Joanna Penberthy of St Davids and Andrew John of Bangor voted for it. Moreover, the indications are that in Bangor the policy advocated by the motion has been the de facto reality for some time. In St Davids, a traditionalist parish with one of the strongest congregations, and with a significant ministry to children and young people, has been told that it will not have a resident cleric although it is still expected to contribute over £60,000 in ministry share. Another parish, elsewhere in the diocese, and one which did not ask for a male bishop to officiate at confirmation, will have a new priest resident in its parsonage after only a month's interregnum. This strikes many as anomalous, to say the least."

It is difficult to escape the conclusion that orthodox Anglicans in England and Wales are held in contempt for not conforming to this world.

31 comments:

  1. Who are the alleged traditional bishops and archdeacon? I'm assuming Rod Thomas is one. It is of course only 'self-identify' as traditional rather than being an objective measure.

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    1. There must be some error with the date of 2014.

      Having checked various sources (FiF, the report on the Sheffield debacle, etc.) the only senior appointment of a traditionalist since 2014 was this year with the appointment of Ven Luke Irvine-Capel as Archdeacon of Chichester. He was ordained in Abergavenny by Bishop David Thomas, and has recently been appointed by Bishop Martin Warner of Chichester. Another recent Chichester diocese archdeacon, Edward Dowler, is Anglo-Catholic but not sure of how precisely he identifies himself.

      The only other senior traditionalist appointments were, I think, a translation - Luke Miller became Archdeacon of London in 2015 but was already Archdeacon of Hampstead from 2010 - and +Philip North who was consecrated as Suffragan Bishop of Burnley in 2015. So I am not sure who the other suffragan is (Maidstone? as you suggest).

      As regards the one so-called appointment of a traditionalist diocesan bishop since 2014 (+Philip North to Sheffield), I would have thought the least said about that disgraceful affair the better. The way he was treated was shameful.

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  2. "a strong centre such as the Papacy". The Ordinariate provides such an anchor.

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  3. Medwyn on the Menai8 July 2019 at 12:42

    Talking of the ordination of women (or old women) did anyone see the list of those who were ordained in Bangor, this Petertide? Looks like the senior staff meeting will be even more clerically top-heavy from now on. First, the Bishop's wife was slipped through under the radar; and now, his... er, let's just call him 'Diocesan Secretary.' Astonishing.

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    1. The bishop's wife has escaped both husband and diocese, and within a few months of becoming a priest, is no longer in the employ of Church In Wales

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    2. In a Position to Know9 July 2019 at 14:44

      Medwyn, you have only touched on the tip of the iceberg, I fear.

      When the aforementioned attended a selection conference a couple of years ago, the outcome was not what he - or his sponsoring Bishop, no doubt - had hoped. The Secretary's report to the Bishop was the worst (and I mean THE WORST) I have ever read. I should have taken a copy at the time, when my eyes briefly alighted on it, because I did not believe that anyone with a report like this could possibly be ordained. We are not talking about a light question mark over one of the criteria, or a difference of opinion among the selectors. This was an emphatic and unequivocal statement that he is not recommended for training. From memory, words like 'arrogance' 'evasive' and 'defensive' jumped off the page. So too did the view that this candidate was weak when it came to demonstrating empathy and in-depth pastoral engagement. Doubtless those with first-hand knowledge of the inner workings of the so-called 'Bishop's Council' in Bangor will concur.

      What did Andy Crap do on receiving this report? Yes, that's right, with his characteristic recklessness, he immediately overturned the selectors' recommendations! Why was that, I wonder? Well... I'll leave you to draw your own conclusions (and save AB having to think twice about publishing this, but it should be obvious to anyone in-the-know in Bangor).

      So now we know there's one rule for everyone else, and another rule for those who are part of Andy Crap's inner circle. It demonstrates his complete contempt for the corporate (not to say Catholic) nature of the Church, and an agreed process of discernment that should apply fairly to all. How can anyone (how does anyone) trust a Bishop like this? Again, I think we know the answer to that question.

      And the poor parishioners where he 'serves' (what a euphemism!), not to say his training incumbent? No doubt they have been told, like so many others before them, to like it or lump it. This is a long-awaited chance to put into practice all that he learned in the less-than-edifying nooks and crannies of certain Anglo Catholic fleshpots in London. What happens, as it inevitably will, when all this begins to unravel, and there is a trail of pastoral havoc? Will his incumbent be told to sign on the dotted line, on pain of whatever appeals to Andy Crap's lurid imagination, if he protests at the prospect of this deacon being priested next year? Nothing would surprise me any longer.

      Meanwhile, the Pretender to the See of Bangor, with his well-documented Corbin-like stubbornness and incompetence, demonstrates once more that he believes himself to be beyond accountability. Worse, that the common good of the whole Church, and the basic theological conviction that the Church (note the capital 'C') has to be satisfied that a vocation is an expression of the will of God, is secondary to fulfilling personal need. And still, like Corbin's party, Andy Crap's Diocese continues along the inevitable (but entirely preventable) path of dysfunction and meltdown.

      Arglwydd, trugarha. Trugarha wrthym.

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    3. First his ex wife and now his new 'chum'.
      The swamp continues to spread.

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    4. Watching from near Nefyn10 July 2019 at 12:23

      The significant thing about his wife is that she had not even worshipped in a church, let alone exercised her diaconal orders for years. She is ordained priest without any discernment process. Crap even tried to keep one of his archdeacons in the dark about it. No sooner has she been moved into Penrhosgarnedd vicarage, ordained and titled to a parish, she is off like forked lightening. She had no intention of serving in the parochial ministry (it's widely known that she hated parish life which is why she gave up exercising her ministry as a deacon) but went chasing after an NHS salary. Obviously a stipend is not good enough.

      Swamp? This is a cesspit on the grand scale, where a 'bishop' has no regard for the catholicity of the Church whatsoever. And still the haemorrhaging continues. A little bird tells me we are about to lose yet another native Welsh speaking cleric to a far-flung province of the Anglican Communion.

      Arglwydd trugarha indeed.

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  4. The continued accommodation of traditionalists at ordination is effectively a respect of conscience which has been the Anglican way. As an evangelical I am mystified that some 'priests' decry the doctrine of substitutionary atonement in clear contravention of their ordination vows to uphold the 39 Articles. However, I respect them and work with them, this has been the Anglican way to preserve a common witness everywhere.

    PJ's attempt to commit theological sterilization on traditionalist clergy reminded me of Star Wars order 66 when Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader enters the Jedi Temple to kill the younglings. It was a truly extraordinary move to silence and destroy a wing of Welsh Anglicanism forever, so much for liberality and inclusion. Thankfully, this time, it was seen for what it was and soundly defeated.

    However, the way of things nowadays is for people like PJ to lick their wounds, regroup, lobby away, modify their proposals and keep pushing and pushing until they get what they want. Faith and the gospel becomes secondary to their campaign which becomes all in all.

    If the Traditionalists' conscience is trampled on then, what of mine? As an Evangelical will I be able to withdraw myself from practices that are clearly unbiblical? I fear illiberal liberalism will have its day and destroy the church. This ironically so, since they ply a diversity message, homogenizing it and stripping it of any dynamism that is left, "having a form of godliness but denying the power thereof."

    Three choices for Traditionalists, Conservative Anglo-Catholics and Evangelicals; fight back hard from within, call it a day to form new structures or gently slip away into oblivion.

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    1. PJ has now taken herse!f to the States.
      Meanwhile, the body of the laity attempt to carry on Church life as it used to be, apparently not having discovered the error of female ordination. Will they ever? What would it take?
      So sad.
      Rob

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  5. Canon Gainer is correct in stating the 'anomalous' instances of clergy deployment in the Diocese of St Davids. Part of the issue, as many already know and dare not say, is that +Jo is in over her head.

    I understand why "Barry Morgan" decided to lay hands on her rather than say Peggy the Pilate, Jenny Meths, or any of the others who had aspirations on being the first with female anatomy to be consecrated (let's be clear - Jo wasn't the first bishop in Wales to need a bra) - however, the "hope" that some had has greatly evaporated. Those who clapped her at that West Door now are some of her critics. I am in no doubt that she is a good and decent person, but, in accepting the "will of the Holy Spirit" to be elected a bishop, she has to be, as much as possible, a conciliatory figure as bishop, and, as far as

    Her decision in regards to the traditionalist parish is utterly unjustifiable; it would be interesting to note what part the relevant Archdeacon has had in this, as that may be a contributing factor. There seems to be a current prevalence in the St Davids diocese that nothing existed before +Jo, and that the good work of those before is annihilated, whilst their natural human flaws and mistakes (after all, we're all human) are used to justify an 're-invention', similar to the PRC 'Cultural Revolution' - and look where that got them. It's time for her and her diocesan staff to get a grip.

    DewiResistance

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  6. Christian Badger10 July 2019 at 11:31

    Taking all the points above is there not room for a bit of 'credit where it is due'? +June allowed a male bishop to ordain a traditionalist Deacon this year - and has invited +Phillip North to a confirmation service later this year. Does this not show at least some sense of wishing (?tolerating) mutual flourishing?

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    1. My comment was purely on the St Davids diocese. I understand that many traditionalist clergy in Llandaff seem to be receptive to +June (and vice-versa).

      DewiResistance

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  7. Alwyn from Abertawe10 July 2019 at 13:46

    Yes, Christian Badger, there is a small glimmer that June is at least consistent on the mutual flourishing question (or aspects of it). She made positive noises when arriving in Llandaff that no-one was required to accept the ordination of women as a matter of theological conviction. She voted against Peggy the Pilate's vindictive motion at the GB, which speaks volumes. And she is allowing bishops of the Society of Saints Hilda & Wilfred to minister in the Llandaff Diocese. Quite a positive step forward compared to Byzantine Barry.

    Meanwhile, did anyone watch Shirley before the Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse? It's available on Youtube. Look for 5 July am and pm. The answer to the first question was wrong, of course. When (the appropriately named) Fiona Scolding QC asked the Archbishop if he would be would like to be called 'Archbishop John' he answered 'yes.' The correct answer should have been 'my friends like to call me "Shirley'"!

    However, I thought he displayed very interesting body language. Clearly every question was being mentally filtered before being answered. Some matters were deflected to the provincial Secretary, who was sat there looking like a rebuked bank manager. Shirley was clearly rattled by the incompetence of one or two of his (unidentified) episcopal colleagues who had failed to comply with the recommendations of the safeguarding supremos. Definitely a few screengrabs to be had for some captions on this esteemed blog, I would have thought.

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  8. More interestingly, AfA, was His Grace's answer to his jurisdiction over other bishops. According to him, "Following recent events", this jurisdiction was being looked at again. The question Ms Scolding QC should have asked was, "To what recent events are you referring?" I would love to have heard that response.
    Seymour

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  9. I wonder, Seymour, whether the jurisdiction question is, in part, an expression of Shirley's exasperation at the nefarious activities in which Andy Crap is engaged. After all, he is not only treating his own Diocese with contempt; he is making it clear that he doesn't care much for his fellow bishops, either.

    As the Archdeacon of St Davids said at the time of Crap's 'election': "it is going to be disastrous, completely and utterly disastrous."

    Of course, Shirley is to be commended for playing a straight bat here. Byzantine Barry frequently ignored the boundaries of his jurisdiction, and was clearly 'managing' Andy Crap by dictating policy in Bangor, with which the puppet duly complied. It was all part of the Golfer's vindictive need to settle old scores in his former Diocese (where his episcopate was a complete failure) by getting at those who had the integrity to stand up to him. 'Mr Angry' is how was referred to by certain people in the (former) HQ at Cathedral Road.

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    1. You talk of "Shirley's exasperation", but following +Andy's refusal to follow CiW procedures over bullying allegations, an appeal was made to the arch-bish (in line with procedures) but he did not even bother replying. He could have taken the opportunity to get rid, but chose not to.

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    2. If Shirley is exasperated over Andy Crap's nefarious activities why did she put him in charge of the £10 million slush fund?

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  10. The Bangor Cathedral descent continues apace. Months after losing three clergy (with mutterings of bullying being made by one priest’s wife) the choir master has unexpectedly left. Well respected by both the choir and congregation, his skills will be missed. Once again, bullying allegations are being made.

    The problem for the congregation, however, is that the Bishop cannot afford to lose another dean. No matter how many allegations are made, they will neither be investigated nor acted upon if proven. Which leaves staff with little choice but to leave.

    But maybe the Bishop’s authority is on the wane? Rumours are swirling around the Bro Dwynwen ministry area. Ironically, there’s no love lost there between faithful members and their Bishop. Some weeks ago, it was announced that their ministry area leader was being forced to retire by the Bishop. Well past retirement age, Roberts had asked for permission to continue till his eightieth birthday, when he would complete 20 years in the ministry. He seemed on track to fulfil this desire with the Bishop's approval. After all, there doesn’t seem to be a queue of priests waiting to come to Bangor Diocese these days.

    Suddenly without any warning, the announcement of the enforced retirement was made - with Roberts having only some 12 months to go before his birthday. Parishioners were shocked. Roberts is apparently well regarded and loved by all and several letters were sent to the Bishop pleading on his behalf. But there was to be no change of heart. The Bishop believed the time had come.

    However, as suddenly as the announcement of the retirement was made, a volte face by the Bishop! Roberts would be allowed to fulfil his wish after all.

    What could have happened? Every letter sent to him was replied to emphatically: the Bishop would not reverse his decision. The answer to this mystery may lie in the rumour that letters were also written to the provincial office in Cardiff and to the HR office in particular. What pressure has the Bishop been placed under? Could it be that having made two big payouts to Bangor clergy following employment tribunal processes, HR were worried about a third case?


    One who knows where the bodies are buiried.

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  11. Yes, this all rings true. Car Crash Cathy is more authoritarian than Cyanide Sue, and just as accomplished at bullying. She also only works part-time (even though she is paid a full stipend) and has a particular gift for (what Anne Widdecombe famously called) 'semantic circumlocution.' Some of us still remember the famous incident when she was chaplain at the hospital in Bangor. She told the Bishop should couldn't go on the clergy conference because she had to work because the health authority wouldn't give her the time off. Then the son of a clergy couple (who were at the conference) was admitted to the hospital after a serious incident. When the Bishop rang the hospital to alert Cathy of the emergency, he was told 'She's not here, Bishop. We were told she was under strict instructions from you to attend a clergy conference in Dublin.'

    Is there something in the water in Bangor that causes members of the senior staff to be compulsive liars - and those who aren't waste no time in moving elsewhere?

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  12. Dylan in Dolgellau12 July 2019 at 09:52

    I too am hearing that another native Welsh-speaking priest who has given excellent and long-standing service to the Diocese of Bangor is getting out and moving far, far away. To what degree the Church in Wales in the Diocese of Bangor is now able to serve the population, culturally and linguistically, is becoming depressingly obvious. No wonder the malaise and decline continue unabated, while Bishop, Dean, Archdeacons and Diocesan Secretary continue to feather their nests. Mwgabe could learn a great deal from Crap's Clique.

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    1. Tony Crockett will be spinning in his grave but the rot set in the moment that horses backside --Bazza took up the purple.

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  13. When Tony Crockett died, the Diocese of Bangor was flourishing. He gave the Diocese a renewed confidence that had been drained by Barry Morgan's controlling nepotism, and the inevitable inertia that followed his move to Llandaff. Clergy - and I mean able clergy - were moving here from the Church of England and committing to learning Welsh. Now, the gifted clergy have long gone (almost entirely to England), and only the dodgy dross and a few lazy rejects are being washed-up on the Menai shore. Certainly, +Tony would have told Barry the Golfer where to stick his Misery Areas, and Bangor would be modelling a much more sustainable and rooted form of parish ministry. One thing is certain, the Lavatory Attendant, Cyanide Sue, and Car-Crash Cathy would be nowhere near the Senior Staff table. Bob the Builder would be firmly where he belongs - and the prospect of the current Diocesan Secretary being ordained would be as unlikely as the Dean of St Davids joining Forward in Faith.

    Tony Crockett has been spinning in his grave since Barry Morgan presided over that fixed election in 2008, only inches from where +Tony's mortal remains lie. It's going to be one hell of a hum-dinger when he gets hold of the Golfer and his Crap puppet in the eternity that awaits us. Mind you, Crap and the Golfer are probably arrogant enough to believe that there's no such thing as eternity.

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  14. Tropical Storm Barry, destroying Louisiana? It destroyed the Church in Wales, 20 years ago.

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    1. SD. The Archbishop of Wales now has a Doctorate. Part of the citation reads, “Throughout his ministry, Archbishop John has shown agile and strong leadership with a genuine sense of purpose. It has not been business as usual under his guidance and leadership.” Following on from the retirement of Barry Morgan (against whom none of the other bishops voted against at GB when it came to the question of provision for traditionalist Anglicans), we were under the impression that everything was "business as usual".

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  15. Anglicanism seems to be corrupt right from the head down. How can the ABp of York justify ordaining his wife with no recourse to the selection process and without a single day in training for the role? There is something at the root of this... Come further down the tree and a recently retired clergyman in my deanery is stealing (no other word for it) funeral fees and opportunities to minister from my brethren in the local clergy. In Cardiff, another clerk in HOLY ORDERS has been stealing like this for years. A former bishop told me that this man was erning MORE than the ABp of Wales... I wonder if he declared all those funeral fees? NOW he's retired and has signed up as a "Humanist" funeral leader presiding over atheist funerals which are approx. 250% the price of Christian burials!! His bank balance must be phenomenal. Everyone thinks sex is the BIG Christian sin but brother, HMRC could tell us a few tales if they inspected these "priests". Spineless bishops and archdeacons know all this and do nothing - because as they draw large salaries from church coffers while real clergy SERVE the Church for a stipend - perhaps they are afraid of throwing stones through their conservatory windows. We are SO far from the NT model of The Church it is little wonder people are not drawn to us.

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  16. Father David...I cannot see how you think you are in a position to comment on the behaviour of clergy who far surpass you in competency and track record given your record of inexcusable comments...La Sophia

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    1. Yes I'm incompetent and way down the "career" path thank goodness but can you remind me of the "inexcusable comments" please O Wisdom?

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    2. Don't hold your breath Father. Critics regularly make unfounded accusation. It goes right to the top. The first woman bishop in Wales often complains of prejudice and discrimination. When challenged all she could come up with was that people did not agree with her!
      https://ancientbritonpetros.blogspot.com/2018/04/the-hour-has-come.html

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  17. Occasional Visitor from Ebor19 July 2019 at 13:50

    La Sophia, I think Fr David has a more than valid point here.

    John Sentamu ordained his wife as a deacon. Not only did he do so prior to her commencing formal training. But he did so without her having completed the mandatory safeguarding training required of everyone who holds the Archbishop's Licence in the Diocese of York. At present not only can no ordained person officiate in the Diocese of York (as in most other English dioceses) without a Licence or a Permission to Officiate; they cannot even read a lesson in church or lead the intercessions as any other lay person would be permitted to. So, please, enlighten us as to why Mrs Sentamu is the exception to this strictly enforced rule?

    Given the fact that Archbishop Sentamu was the subject off a severe grilling at the IICSA last week over his safeguarding failings, and spewed out the usual, predictable guff about making the Church a safe place; how can he be considered competent in these circumstances? When Sentamu told the inquiry (quoting Mandell Creighton) that 'absolute power corrupts absolutely' he wasn't kidding was he?

    No, on this one, Fr David's competency outshines the chancer in Bishopthorpe. He's more of an autocratic bully than another Archbishop who is often fondly recalled on this esteemed blog.

    Keep the comments coming, Fr David. If they are considered inexcusable by some, it is only because the behaviour they expose is even more inexcusable.

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