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| No economy at the top: "Bishop Mary and Bishop John join the Church's Bench of Bishops" Source: Church in Wales |
The Vicar of Radyr has announced that she has submitted her resignation as incumbent and Ministry Area Leader to the bishop of Llandaff.
The Reverend Vicki Burrows said that she could no longer, with integrity, knowing the many things she knows, serve in the diocese where she believed a 'culture of fear' exists. A diocesan survey conducted after her initial exposure 'brought up the same results'. The senior leadership team acknowledged there was room for improvement. See the vicar's statement in this video link starting at position 1.00.15
The problem for the vicar and those for whom she is sacrificing her ministry is that the bench ditched integrity as soon as they had their own way on the ordination of women. See Brood of vipers!
It is not expected that the bishop of Llandaff will consider her position having already been engaged in a long running battle with her side-lined Dean and the new archbishop confirming his impotency in such matters.
Bishop June also has the precedent of the bishop of St Davids sitting tight until the storm blows over after the Twitter scandal in which she insulted many of her flock. Bishop Joanna is now making more frequent appearances as if she had never blotted her copybook.
Vicars are expendable it seems while bishops expand their empires despite Recommendation XXV for diocesan reform in the 2012 Harries Review.
Instead we have feminist triumphalism praising their latest 'successes'. Recently the Church in Wales
tweeted: Our new bishops, Mary Stallard and John Lomas, join the Bench of bishops. We now have more women bishops than men, which we think is a first in the Anglican Communion @AnglicanNews @ChurchTimes.
This is somewhat ambiguous. Presumably they mean joining the bench for a photograph. According to the constitution the “Bench of Bishops” means the Archbishop and the other Diocesan Bishops but the gloating "We now have more women bishops than men, which we think is a first in the Anglican Communion" implies the prospect of an expectation of feminism influencing the Church in Wales even more.
It has been said that the hat makes the man so perhaps the mitre may be thought to make the women. That could explain the biggest mitre being sported by the assistant bishop. If I remember correctly she saw a woman wearing a mitre on a visit to the USA and was even more convinced that women bishops were right!
Postscript [01.04.2022]
Church Times -
Dean’s complaint of bullying by Bishop of Llandaff to be heard at tribunal:
"No date for the tribunal has yet been fixed. A spokeswoman for the Church in Wales confirmed on Tuesday that the tribunal panel was currently being appointed by the president, Mark Powell QC. It can have five members, and must include a diocesan or assistant bishop from another diocese.
"The Church in Wales has appointed Gavin Foster QC — joint registrar in the diocese of Salisbury, a former Crown Prosecutor, and former domestic chaplain to the Bishop of Winchester, Dr Tim Dakin — as Proctor to bring the case. The tribunal has considerable powers, ranging from absolute or conditional discharge, rebuke, or monition, to deposition from Holy Orders."
Each of the seven deadly sins is well represented there.
ReplyDeleteMight just as well be a lineup of puppets from Trumpton.
ReplyDeleteHuw, Pugh, Barney, McGrew, Cuthbert, Dibble and Grub.
DeleteLEV
DeleteWhat does VB have to do with the Dud's Aga and other discrepancies. Am I missing something. Note I congratulate him only in respect of opposing the Monstrosity on the Green.
LW
Had you read previous entries on this blog LW, you would know that Vicki Burrows is one of the biggest supporters of the dud in the Llandaff Deanery, including providing him with "pastoral support".
DeletePlease pay more attention in future.
Lev
DeleteYes I must catch-up.
The juxtaposition of these two incompetents on the Green is unfortunate.
The support VB has for the D is most to do with her shared dislike of the bully next door, not his endorsement (there are limits...)
LW
Gerwhine is himself a bully and was busy putting about a lot of stick to his "subversive" elderly Parishioners long before Caiaphas was appointed.
DeleteThe Capon is living in a glass house while tossing around bricks concerning bullying allegations against Caiaphas.
No-one doubts she's a bully but so is he and so is his dark Lord, Darth --Insidious who's the biggest bully of them all.
Not to mention the dubious and unexplained disappearance of the little Catholic curate Ceirion Gilbert. Only one curate but 100% failure rate since Gerwhine's appointment.
DeletePerhaps Gerard Elias QC ought to investigate that?
Vicki Burrows is hardly going to miss any of that shower or sh*t 💩
ReplyDeleteThe sadness is that clergy of her calibre resign while the Bishop of llandaff remains in post. The Dud in the Deanery is hanging in there to see her out. For this I congratulate him.
DeleteLW
Radyr has been going downhill since Bill Barlow's days.
DeleteJenny Wigley was hopeless and there's been no improvement since.
The evidence is right there, just look at how empty the Nave is.
@LW
DeleteYou might as well congratulate the dud in the Llandaff Deanery for getting away with £70k of Parishioners money.
Or have you forgotten about the Aga in the Deanery?
Actually Vicki is an excellent parish priest. We are sorry to see her go.
DeleteRadyr Parishioner
So why is the Nave still so empty?
DeleteThe numbers and the video don't lie.
@LW
DeleteHow do "clergy of her calibre" explain the sudden appearance of the wood burning stove and the Aga cooker appearing in the Llandaff Deanery without the knowledge of the Parsonage Board or the other Trustees of Llandaff Cathedral? 🤔
Likewise, the £3.5k additional payments to the slimy amphibian Mr Toad? 🐸
@RadyrParishioner
What does Vicki expect would happen to her if she'd been caught with her hands in the plate to the tune of £70k of YOUR money?
How telling it is that "Radyr Parishioner" doesn't deny Jenny Wigley was hopeless.
DeleteWhen one is independently wealthy and doesn't need either the Church house or the stipend, it is easy to call out perceived injustices, then walk away at a time of one's own choosing and convenience.
DeleteVicki Burrows would have been far more credible if she'd stood her ground against the big bullying neighbour and attempted to rectify the wrongs about which she claims to know so much.
Ukrainian she clearly is not.
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DeleteAnglican bishops did not wear mitres in the past.What is doing so now meant to symbolise, or is it pure Gilbrt and Sullivan.
ReplyDeleteMore Laurel & Hardy, or Abbott & Costello.
DeleteIt's meant to symbolise the anointing of the Holy Spirit.
ReplyDeleteWhamab
Symbolise? In the same way that an actor symbolises the character he or she plays.
DeleteAnglican Bishops have been wearing mitres since Edward King of Lincoln at the very beginning of the 20th century, Lang Archbishop of Canterbury in the 1940s, so its hardly new. Throughout history Anglican Bishops have mitres on their coats of arms since most are directly those of the pre-reformation sees and even if they didn't wear eucharistic vestments only choir robes legend has it they had them painted on the carriage doors in the 18th century. As for the bench today, just choose one that fits and is in relative proportion to the height of the wearer and don't be like Cardinal Marty, the Archbishop of Paris in the 1980s who was "a little dut" but who wore the tallest mitre in Christendom otherwise the congregation couldn't see him in procession in Notre Dame
ReplyDeletePointy Hats for ever
Thank you.It is a long time since Bishop King. He meant something by it.Do the lady ministers mean the same?
DeleteWhat is meant by the mitre and its wearing by Anglican Bishops is not a gender issue, and should not be so. The Bishops, regardless of gender wear the vesture appropriate to their order, "lady ministers" do you mean members of the Cabinet or clergy in nonconformist denominations perhaps?
DeletePointy hats....
From the comments in this morning's Church Times, I understand the safeguarding people are taking a keen interest in Vicki B's dossier of evidence. They have the power to do what Andy Crap is frightened to do. If June Osborne represents a safeguarding risk in their view, she will have no option but to stand aside. The legal (and financial) fallout of her not doing so will be reputationally disastrous.
ReplyDeleteAs a number of people have said (here and elsewhere) there are very good reasons why June Osborne was not appointed a bishop in the Church of England - and even better reasons why Peggy Jackson was never made an archdeacon, despite applying for every vaccancy going. Her cat-skinning email is just one indicator of her unsuitability for senior office.
In 14 months and 7 days June Osborne will have resigned the See of Llandaff.
Here's hoping it's considerably sooner than that but just long enough for her to cook Capon's Goose before she waddles off stage left.
DeleteAssuming she lasts that long, Caiaphas will not have resigned but retired having reached the maximum age limit of 70 and feathered her nest with the maximum pension pot!
DeleteRandy Pandy in today's Church Times.
Delete"Bishops’ clear responsibilities, with other senior lay figures, mean they have to be accountable."
Read it and weep.
Strange how Randy Pandy makes no reference to the recommendation to do away with three Bishops and three Dioceses.
DeleteThe chocolate teapot has a selective memory.
June will not be entitled to the maximum pension pot from the Church in Wales as she will only have served just over 6 years not the 41 years clergy have to serve to get a full pension, most of her pension pot will come from the Church of England.
DeletePointy hat.....
Caiaphas will walk away with the maximum pension available to her in her personal circumstances.
DeletePlus, in 14 months and 7 days she'll be able to plough her way through lots of Clarke's pies.
mmm Clarke's pies!
DeleteTwo more doses of bad news today for the terminally ill Cult in Wales.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.churchtimes.co.uk/articles/2022/11-march/news/uk/ten-years-on-harries-review-has-changed-the-church-in-wales
https://www.churchtimes.co.uk/articles/2022/11-march/news/uk/cleric-who-called-for-the-suspension-of-the-bishop-of-llandaff-resigns
"We continue as we please".
Today's headline in The Times: "Priest 'bit and punched her fiancée in lockdown row'. Michelle Bailey, priest in charge in Swansea and Brecon is on trial in Stafford magistrates court for assault by beating of her girlfriend. She denies the charge but one has to ask what is it about these female clerics?
ReplyDeleteShe was cleared of all charges!
DeleteBarnaby
Perhaps such spices have teeth like stars? For health and safety, they should only 'come out at night'.
DeleteEnforcer
Teilo the article is dreadful. Here are some extracts:
Delete'She allegedly bit her fiancée, tore her ear, punched her in the face and broke her glasses in a row during the first Covid lockdown after their relationship had “turned sour”, a court was told.
The Rev Michelle Bailey, 54, has been accused of assaulting Diane Shaw, 56, during an argument in May 2020.
Bailey, who has been suspended from her role as priest-in-charge of the benefice of Dan Yr Epynt in the Diocese of Swansea and Brecon since the incident, has denied the charge of assault by beating and criminal damage and is standing trial at Stafford magistrates’ court.'
[I laughed out loud at this: Simon Dyke, for the prosecution]
'Shaw alleged: “[Bailey] went over to my car and keyed the bonnet of my car. She punched me a few times in the hallway. Full blows hit my face. I went over to her and she was lying over the bonnet of my Audi TT...I was punched in the face numerous times, forcefully, between four and six times...“I got two black eyes, split nose. My right ear became detached from my head, bite marks too and bruises to my torso.'
The trial continues.
Cymraes yn Lloegr
The Dan yr Epynt benefice website has a masterclass in euphemism: Talking of its incumbent: "Unfortunately, she is currently unavailable to fulfil her duties". People are asked to contact one of the chruchwardens (sic) instead: the mind boggles at what the chruchwardens are for!
DeleteIn my youth, the Vicar used to run the boys boxing club.
DeleteSounds like not much has changed.
🤣🤣🤣
Why, according to the article, is she on a deans stipend? I wonder whether someone can ask the question of the RB? Is it an error?
DeletePerhaps she's taken a leaf out of the Capon's playbook and had her hand in the plate too?
DeleteHas an Aga appeared in her kitchen recently?
PP. I just read the times article it's absolutely horrific. A couple of points stand out: £40k stipend is that possible? The women was married prior to her lesbian dalliance. How does such a women get through selection, surely they us psychometric profiling, behavioural analysis as most Churches do these days? John Lomas has a task ahead on this one!
ReplyDeleteI don't believe it's "all" women clergy, some let's face it are good pastoral stewards. You could equally cite male clergy too who have "gone off the rails", mainly for non-violent crimes.
Admittedly,some women are on power trips, heavy handed and more, you could cite the Llandaff saga as an example. Or, the demise of the Dean at Bangor, which finally has a Cathedral that's open, welcoming and not so toxic
On a more sober note, setting aside the Llandaff chaos. Notice one other women leaders role alongside +JunO, Peggy, who was equally toxic causing as noted across this blog, much devicive means "their is more ways to skin a cat", the failed GB proposal, Choir disbanding and organ fund The +Jo tweeting scandal, bad as it was, was prove true only a few weeks on, but, Jo's actions were unbecoming for a bishop, but ++Andy, seems to feel cutting a little slack can help or, can it?
The Bishop of Monmouth, I can say from personal experience, is certainly hands on pastorally, with her people. She has to date caused no turbulence in CiW. One in three diocesans' is a fare ratio.
On the whole this press report and court case, only sets back the cause of women in the Church.
The CiW need to have annual appraisal for all clergy, and for Bishops some form of psychological testing,physical medical fitness for such a demanding role. Failing either, means leaving office. But, these tests carried out by specialists who are not personally chosen but chosen from a pool of professionals, who have no personal gain.
The last thing needed. There has been too much of that in recent years. Who will assess the assessors?
DeleteRob
Physical testing? How carnal
ReplyDeleteJoanna, apparently, is plugging this in St Davids diocese.
ReplyDeleteIn Wales, the dioceses have been wrecked by political correctness, wokery, over emphasis on the Welsh language, theological liberalism, lamentable leadership and the poisonous support of gay relationships. The best anyone can do is to support a particular church and work with it.
Rob
I suggest Angle and Rev Maynard.
DeleteWell said Rob. I intend cancelling my DD to the CiW / Misery Area and paying to and only for "my" church.
DeleteIf you really want to help your own Church specifically then make sure all your donations are made for a specific project or purpose, obvious examples being a roof fund, the heating bill, the Sunday school or Choir and so on.
DeleteIn that way, your donations will have to be recorded as "restricted" funds and used accordingly rather than just disappearing into the general funds to pay the Parish share to the Diocese.
Keep your own Church running but simultaneously starve the Diocese and Cult in Wales of money.
Otherwise they'll get their grubby mitts on your money in any case, just like Bonaparte and Captain Peacock did in Llandaff Cathedral over the £1.5 million raised to pay for the £980k organ.
Sound advice - thank-you.
DeleteWhy is the vicar of a Swansea and Brecon parish standing trial in Stafford? Does this mean that the said vicar (regardless of gender) was absent from her parish while lockdown was very much ongoing ie. May 2020 or that we don't have any Magistrates in Wales!
ReplyDeletePointy hat....
I understand that the offences were alleged to have taken place at her girlfriend's home in Staffordshire. It's instructive reading the reports in all the different newspapers (online) to get a rounded picture.
DeleteI suspect lockdown rules were broken! CB.
DeleteDoes Gabriel mean 'Angle Grinder' ,,, ?
ReplyDeleteAd Clerum
Gabriel does not.
DeleteThe ears in the walls report Gerwhine has turned down another increased generous offer to vacate the Deanery and that Caiaphas is becoming increasingly desperate because time is against her.
ReplyDeleteAB. I commented on a certain Facebook page that I thought Bishops Assistant did not sit on the bench. Gregory Cameron replied to me indicating that Bishops Assistant, indeed were Bench sitters,by invitation, apparently. Self perpetuation is secure .
ReplyDeleteGregory has been full of sh*t 💩 for years.
DeletePlankers, one and all.
DeleteAsk him to check the Constitution. Chapter 1, Part 2.7 defines what an Assistant Bishop is (and what defines “the Bench”… or Sofa, depending on your interpretation).
DeleteDewiResistance
To answer A/B's original headline post. Basically a Bishop, in the first instance has to lose the respect of their Diocese. Said Bishop, should then lose the respect of the Bench, finally lose the respect of the Governing Body along with the Provincial Secretary.
ReplyDeleteWhat about those who fail to gain respect in the first place?
DeleteIn the Church Times, Archbishop Andy John has stated any Parish within a Ministry Area has the Right to withdraw from any decission the Ministry Area may take. How workable is that? Either all in or none in
ReplyDelete@Quill Pen, I think he is making it up as he goes along quite frankly.
ReplyDeleteWHAMAB
You’ll be meaning Chief Executive (Provincial Secretary)!
ReplyDeleteSaggyoldclothcat
Another wet dishcloth. 😂
DeleteThe answer to your question ancientbriton is a degree of self-awareness and self-reflection that is currently lacking. If I had caused as much pain and hurt to as many people as certain members of the Bench have then I'd realise I couldn't stay, but power allows them to remain. St. David's pew sitter.
ReplyDeleteI’m told that the bishop of Llandaff has announced to her clergy (via an ad clerum) that she will go before a tribunal in relation to the case with the Dean. I wonder whether it will happen within the timeframe set out in the bullying and harassment policy… I doubt it. At this rate she will be retired before she can resign.
ReplyDeleteHow lovely to see Bishop Richard Fenwick celebrating the mysteries at Ystrad Mynach last Sunday. I'm told he's not been licensed to perform any Episcopal Actions since retirement! How petty.
ReplyDeleteUnison Off.