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| Contempt? Bishop of St Davids enthronement Source: Twitter/Nation Cymru |
"THE Bishop of St Davids, Dr Joanna Penberthy, apologised last week for a tweet that she had posted in March, in which she had urged: “Never, never, never trust a Tory.” This was her contribution to a debate in which some Welsh Tories were believed to be subverting the Welsh Assembly: a serious issue, and one on which a responsible bishop could well have an opinion.
"But the opinion here was hardly a measured contribution, merely a repeat of a well-worn banality. It left Tory-voting Anglicans (a majority among the laity) with the impression that she held them in contempt."
That is the view of the Rev Angela Tilby writing in the Church Times yesterday. She continues: "The public nature of episcopal office has been understood from antiquity. Bishops are meant to be visible, to be seen and known, to be a focus of unity in the Church, and a point of mediation between Christian communities and civic authority. “He must be well-thought of by outsiders, so that he may not fall into disgrace. . .” (1 Timothy 3.7).
Such comments are in marked contrast to the glowing tribute archbishop Barry Morgan paid to Joanna Penberthy when he struggled to justify his manoeuvrings to get her elected as the first woman in the Church in Wales. He said:
“What is really important to stress is that Joanna wasn’t elected because she was a woman but because she was deemed to be the best person to be a bishop.
“She has considerable gifts – she is an excellent preacher and communicator, can relate to all sections of the community, is a warm, charismatic, caring priest and someone who is full of joy."
Not so. After her appearance in the TV programme 'The Hour' I wrote: "Joanna Penberthy’s contribution was worse than I feared, aligning the Church with a political movement rather than the Kingdom of God. She was unbalanced, dishonest in her claims and blatantly sexist. I doubt that she brought anyone to Christ."
The TV programme was previewed on Twitter. The new bishop complained that, as the 129th successor to St David and the first woman to hold the office, it was 'hard':
While "all those men in my diocese who don't think that women can be bishops have treated me with respect, and so they accept my authority, they don't accept that I am able to to celebrate the sacraments so they wouldn't receive communion from me or be ordained by me. It's hard to have a group of people in the diocese who see women as that different."
It has been much harder for the many women and men who have been martyred to the political posturing of the Church in Wales, effectively un-churched by a Governing Body resolution that gave Joanna Penberthy the authority she claims but which is not recognised by the vast majority of Anglicans or Christians in other denominations.
According to commentators on another thread, clergy in the diocese of St Davids have received a letter of apology to be read to congregations without comment. It states that bishop Penberthy is taking time off to 'reflect, recuperate and respond appropriately'.
'Recuperate' implies she is staying put. Buying time, hoping the storm clouds will settle but the damage has already been done.
Bishop Penberthy shows contempt for those who do not agree with her. She is not a source of unity. For the good of the Church she should go and take her party political gospel with her.
Postscript [18.06.2021]
Another apology, no action.
"The Senior Bishop of the Church in Wales has apologised for offence caused by tweets published by the Bishop of St Davids concerning members of the Conservative Party.
In a statement, Bishop Andy John, the Bishop of Bangor, also reassures people of all political persuasion that they welcome in the Church in Wales.
Bishop Andy is the Church’s Senior Bishop following the retirement of the Archbishop of Wales in May."
Full statement here.
Postscript [21.06.2021]
"Church in Wales working to 'restore damaged relationships' after bishop's 'never trust a Tory' tweet" - Christian Today.
As did the former bishop of Monmouth when the going became tough, the bishop of St Davids is reported to be on sick leave, perhaps waiting for the dust to settle. It did not settle in Monmouth where the report on the investigation into the bishop's departure is long overdue. 'We do as we please' could be the motto of the Church in Wales.
"Can relate to all sections of the community..."
ReplyDeleteWho'd have guessed Darth Insidious Barry Morgan had a sense of humour?
@Laughing Gas
ReplyDeleteWould you agree that Dark Lords of the Sith always exist in pairs: a Master and an Apprentice. We have the original Master; namely, Darth Bazzer Insidious. Henceforth, Apprentice +Go-Jo shall be known as..."Darth Twitter the Unwise". She is currently taking refuge in the Heterodox System - millions of light years away from the Orthodox System. Faithful Tory Anglicans are fleeing the Esgobaeth Tyddewi System in fear for what can harm their souls. The Rebel Anglican Faithful Alliance (RAFA) is meeting on the Parousia System to discuss important ways forward to protect the faithful and to show unqualified positive regard for all its members.
KB-O
Certainly KB-O, but remember the master Sith Morgan is much closer to home, still ensconced at Llys Ego in Whitchurch and pulling the strings from his technology cupboard.
DeleteFrom what is she recuperating? Twitter thumb?
ReplyDeleteWhy can she not see that her error was not spilling a cup of tea accidentally over Mrs Jones' best tablecloth at a Mothers' Union meeting - that is forgiveable. Rather she has insulted many people in her diocese who do not share her political leanings, and now thinks that a simple sorry and a little backtracking - I do trust Tories - makes it alright. If she will not go voluntarily, she needs to be pushed. One of the deaneries in her diocese needs to have the guts to push up to Diocesan Conference a motion of no confidence in the bishop. At Diocesan Conference, thirty members need to stand up to call for a vote in "houses", which means that people can vote honestly and privately. I suspect, at that point, she will have no option but to resign.
Seymour
On a personal basis, Joanna Penberthy is decent and is respectful. She is civilised in her conversation. Occasionally, it is true, she has used episcopal authority in a high handed, even petulant, way, especially towards retired priests, yet her video services bear the marks of a quiet spirituality and I am sure her apology for hurting others is sincere. It has never been my intention to undermine her personally, least of all to destroy her.Her recent reference to needing to needing to 'recuperate' suggest that she has been hurt by the stinging criticisms that have been made of her.
ReplyDeleteShe wears the traditional robes of a bishop, but, in reality, I fear she is simply masquerading as an orthodox shepherd: as AB has pointed out, she is so imbued by secular feminist and LGBT thinking that it is undermining the Church's ethics and besmirching Christian witness.
At one point during her enthronement, her mitre fell off and was plonked back on her head by a, then, assistant bishop. That has always seemed to me prophetic: she will lose her crown. A Labour stooge does not deserve to keep it.
The diocese needs to ask whether it wishes to retain as its bishop someone who is as zealous to uphold the ideals of Stonewall and to further the manifesto promises of the Labour Party as proclaim the Gospel of Christ.
Feminist aims, the promotion of same sex unions and Socialist principles will not revive the Church in Wales. It baffles me that an intelligent woman could be so imbued with such ungodly thinking.
It would be better for her health and for the purity of the Church if she quit now before future disastrous mishaps occur. What is sadly clear is that, thinking as she does, she is out of sympathy with a large element of her flock.
Being pleasant in conversations with people does not and cannot cancel the harm caused by engaging in narrow party political propaganda and propagating secular values that fail to conform with the Gospel desposit she was entrusted to defend.
What is more: public figures who make controversial statements must put up with the flack. Without (genuinely) wishing to be unkind: If Joanna finds the heat too much, she should get out of the kitchen!
Rob
@Rob
ReplyDeleteI certainly respect your gracious approach - it bears all the hallmarks of a forgiving faith; however, JP has been less than gracious and less than forgiving towards those with whom she disagrees - her tweets are vicious in many ways. It is difficult to accept the argument that she is civil in private, yet capricious in her use of Twitter. This would suggest that she is entirely disingenuous. Christ did not take on different public and private personas; He was the same yesterday, today and tomorrow. I don't ever recall Him asserting: "Never, never , never trust a Tax-Collector!", or something similar to that effect; rather he broke bread with Tax-Collectors. JP has decided to introduce a Populist Ecclesiology into the Church of Wales - this is nothing more than a Faustian Pact - she has traded the Spiritual Heart of Christ's teachings for her own personal and intransigent political values. The populist dimension of her ecclesiology devalues and denigrates all those with whom she disagrees. This is evidenced by her pejorative tweets, whose substantial output, numerically exceeded those of Donald Trump. Given the disproportionate amount of time she spent tweeting (in a most uncivil manner), one is left wondering how much valuable time she spent running her Diocese. I must also take a far more cynical view of public domain videos that present a 'quiet spirituality' - some individuals are very adept at focussing on their public persona.
CEH
"Given the disproportionate amount of time she spent tweeting (in a most uncivil manner), one is left wondering how much valuable time she spent running her Diocese."
DeleteThat's the real issue for me. How can she have been doing her day job? Yet she was drawing her stipend as if she has been working full time. This is not just about her politics: it's about her probity.
It's also about equity as between her and her clergy, many of whom will be doing a full day's work (and often then some) for a full day's stipend.
Even if she could *administer* the diocese whilst issuing so many personal tweets on the Church's time, so to speak, what does it say about her priorities? The CiW's membership is in freefall: the time she has dissipated on tweets could have been devoted to missional work, preaching, teaching, and pastoral endeavour. The diocese does not just need to be 'managed'; it needs desperately to be revived. It appears that she has other priorities.
If she were working as a normal employee, she would have been up before HR for dissipating so much company time. She would be fortunate to escape with a 'disciplinary'; however, given the scale and duration of this dissipation of time, she would more likely be sacked.
[Erratum]: I should have stated Church IN Wales. Many apologies!
ReplyDeleteCEH
For very many, she has never even been a "Bishop" in name only,not least of all because bully boy --Bazza ensured the Holy Ghost took no part in the process.
ReplyDelete'never, never, never trust a Bishop who plays party politics' ... or, considering the current state of the Episcopacy, should that be 'never, never, never trust a Bishop'?
ReplyDelete(NotGoneYet)
On Sunday the priest read Joanna's statement and then gave an excellent 15 minute homily showing how her behaviour is incompatible with the gospel. After church the congregation enjoyed the sunshine as we unanimously commented on how fatuous and self-seeking her statement was.
ReplyDeleteTeilo
One hopes there was a polite round of applause at the end of the homily.
DeletePP. Talking of the demise of bishops' what happened to the Monmouth enquiry into the Pain saga?
ReplyDeleteThe BofD, has only herself to blame, sorry is such a tiny word, but it's the hardest. But, unfortunately could we see her demise, investigation under discipline measures ? I take the view that as stated above, the bench may do there own thing - I do hope not!
Time to go, Jo!
ReplyDeletehttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-dorset-57503783
MP calls for St David's bishop to resign over 'Tory' tweet.
"A Conservative MP has called on an Anglican bishop to resign over comments she made on social media advising people to "never trust a Tory".
The Bishop of St David's Dr Joanna Penberthy posted the comments on Twitter in March.
Following criticism, she apologised and subsequently deleted the message.
But in a letter sent to the bishop, Chris Loder MP accused the Church in Wales cleric of holding "divisive views" and called on her to stand down."
To coin a phrase, she just needs to be fruitful and multiply!
DeleteI suspect it's the "Go forth" bit that is of more interest to Mr Loder et al and the sooner the better.
DeleteSomeone should remind her to take her own advice....
Delete"Ask yourself: Does this person have my community's interests at heart? Can I trust them?"
Then the time she needs for reflection will be kept to a minimum and the search for her successor begin.
ADMIN reminder:
ReplyDelete'Anonymous commentators must use a pseudonym if their comments are intended for publication and must not be linked to commercial sites.
The Secretary of State for Wales has published his letter to Canterbury and the response he has received from Canterbury and Bangor.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.gov.uk/government/news/welsh-secretary-writes-to-church-leaders-over-bishops-comments
Seymour
Dr Penberthy has indicated that she has taken time off to 'reflect, recuperate and respond appropriately.' However, one is left asking the question: what does it mean to recuperate?
ReplyDeleteThe word ‘recuperate’ can be interpreted in two ways:
1. recover from illness or exertion
2. recover or regain something lost or taken (taken literally from the Latin re- + capere – to take back)
It may be legitimately suggested that Dr Penberthy needs to recover from the insidious malaise of divisive populist ecclesiology. This requires repentance in the truest sense of the original Greek ‘metanoia’ – a change of heart and mind. Her tweets are nothing short of hate speech that wholeheartedly undermines the teachings of Christ to which she aspires and she is required to uphold these as part of the fullness of her sacramental orders (if one recognises such fullness of orders).
Unfortunately, the insidious nature of her populist ecclesiology has effectively led to an irretrievable pastoral breakdown in her capacity to act as Chief Pastor to the Diocese – the very antithesis of what St David advocated. It may be argued that this is implicit to ++Welby’s response:
“I add my apology to those you have received from the Bishop of Bangor and the Archbishop of York, and am deeply embarrassed by the use of such language by a church leader. It is absolutely unacceptable, and I am truly sorry. I am especially sympathetic because I am very well aware of what it is to be trolled in this way (including by people of all shades of political opinion). It is intolerable, and I am determined to work with my sisters and brothers to find better ways to express disagreement.”
It is now useful to turn our attention to the second part of the definition given above. What is Dr Penberthy trying to regain or recover as part of her ‘recuperation’? It is clear that she has lost her Episcopal esse, as she is now unable to offer unqualified pastoral care to a significant majority of those to whom she ministers. There is now a non-traversable chasm of enmity created by her systematically intolerant and divisive tweets, deemed to be ‘intolerable’ and ‘absolutely unacceptable’. Effectively, there is no way back.
However, the Diocese needs to find some form of recuperation – it needs to take back the strand of Episcope that shows unconditional love in a way that upholds the teachings of Christ. There is nothing wrong with robust challenge, so long as it is inspired by informed love, as demonstrated by Christ’s response to the Rich Young Man: ‘Jesus, looking at him, loved him and said, ‘You lack one thing; go, sell what you own, and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; then come, follow me.’ When he heard this, he was shocked and went away grieving, for he had many possessions’ (Mark 10:21-22, NRSV).
Unfortunately, Dr Penberthy must resign if she is to embody any notion of Christian recuperation, both for her sake and for the pastoral wellbeing of the Diocese. She would be unwise to follow in the footsteps of one adulterous Bishop of St Davids who thought that ‘re-Cooper-ation’ meant holding on to your untenable position at all costs, and at the irretrievable destruction of those whom he was supposed to love.
CEH
Just now (Friday evening, 18th June) I watched BBC Wales's 'Wales Today' which contained a report that the archbishop of Canterbury has written personally to the secretary of state for Wales to express his 'embarrassment' at the now infamous tweet of the bishop of St Davids on the matter of 'trusting Tories'.
ReplyDeleteI've already expressed, elsewhere on this site, my negative view about bishops issuing statements which merely sloganize and render soundbites rather than offer a thoughtful and thoroughgoingly coherent critique, so on one level I have some sympathy with his Grace's response. And I acknowledge that the archbishop of Canterbury might be deemed, at least in some sense, to be the 'patriarch' of the Anglican Communion, and thus has some entitlement to offer his view.
But nevertheless the Church in Wales has for a century been a separate province of the Anglican Communion, and the bishop of St Davids's outburst is hardly a matter which merits an intervention from Canterbury. Surely any response is a matter for the autocephalous church in the province where the alleged transgression took place. Since the occupant of the see of Canterbury in Anglican ecclesiology has nothing even approaching the authority of the patriarch of Rome among Roman Catholics, the archbishop's abrupt intrusion into the internal affairs of a separate province seems wholly inappropriate. If the Church in Wales comes to the conclusion that Bishop Penberthy's ill-advised and ill-substantiated outburst is a problem, it's for the province of Wales to act on that. It should be no concern of the archbishop of Canterbury.
John, if you were to read the letter from the Secretary of State for Wales to the Archbishop of Canterbury, you can see that the Secretary is aware that there is no archbishop in Wales currently. It is for this reason that he wrote to Archbishop of Canterbury. It also appears that the Archbishop of York dealt with Simon Hart's letter, referring him to +Bangor. Justin Welby seems to have replied out of courtesy, whilst pointing out that he is on study leave.
DeleteSeymour
Thank you for that, Seymour - I hadn't appreciated - indeed, didn't even know! - the context. In the light of what you say what has occurred makes more sense to me all round.
DeleteWhen the "Bishop" of St Davids says reflection, is the Bishop reflecting on Penberthy, or Bishop Mrs Legg?
ReplyDeleteAs far as I am aware, a Bishop upon Consecration in the Church in Wales, has to take The Bible in their hand(s) and Promise to uphold it's Teaching and Commandments. We have a woman, elected as "Bishop" of Monmouth, who is within a relationship with another female totally against the teachings of both Christ and the Church. We have a "Bishop" in North West Wales in a similar position, as regards a relationship totally against the Teachings of The Bible. This surely removes at least 3 who are/were intended for high Office. I pray for the Church in Wales both Ecclesiastical and Administrative. I fear we are entering a period that is unknown. Do we enter a phase where we work from home as far as the administration is concerned? Do we enter a phase where The Bible is forgotten, and, the modern PC correct demand that those who do not ollow The Teachings, must be given an opportunity to become the One elected to high Office
ReplyDeleteQuill Pen, the bishops promise a lot of things at their consecration, but as soon as they have that mitre on their heads, their promises are forgotten. For western Anglican bishops the bible and its teachings carry about as much weight as the Sun newspaper. Why they haven't brought a bill to the Governing Body to dispense with the reading of scripture is beyond me. Whilst they are at it, they might just as well make it abundantly clear that Jesus is not the Head of the Church - they are.
DeleteHere, in Wales, the bishops have agreed to spend £10 million on mission. There can be no mission as they systematically dismantle the Church people knew and loved. Their 'mission' is all about controlling events and people to their advantage; and this has been amply demonstrated by Her Ladyship's tweets in St David's Diocese.
Seymour
There is no mission in St. Davids Diocese, no matter how much of the 10 million ended up here. We have a 'Fourth Archdeacon' and a team of 'Evangelists' who would not know Anglicanism if it sat next to them on the bus. No regard for tradition, parish and work already in progress.
DeleteJust more nonsense that many more sensible individuals have already walked away from.
Soon to be retired.
The Archbisop of Canterbury has been drawn into this mess. For the sake of the Church in Wales, Mrs J Legg RESIGN!
ReplyDeleteA politician who had said something equally serious as the bishop would find the call to resign irresistible, whatever his personal feelings.
ReplyDeleteThe bishop would do well to consider the impact on her own physical and mental health of remaining in office. The stream of criticism has been relentless. Things cannot now return to how they were for her. She has made a huge mistake from which she cannot recover, and, therefore,she would be wise to go at once, and attempt to make a new life for herself. NOW IS THE MOMENT. It should bring her some peace.
Rob
Save your breath Rob, if she had any sense she would have resigned weeks ago.
DeleteIf it wasn't already so, it must be blatantly obvious by now that rather than a vocation, it is a job which attracts a better salary than she could get in any other line of work (with her very limited talent) and a tidy little pension to boot.
If she had any sense she would have resigned three years ago following her disgusting and deceitful "Dear John" letters.
DeleteShe was caught out then and failed to learn the lesson.
No amount of reflection or recuperation will change her.
I predict she will need to be pushed, hard.
Why aren't the archdeacons intervening as they did in the case of a former bishop of St Davids?
ReplyDeleteDom
Dom, has it occurred to you that the CiW is looking for a new bishop to replace John Davies (S&B). There is a saying that the hand that wields the dagger never gets to wear the crown. If the archdeacons have illusions of grandeur, they are most certainly not going to be in the forefront of bringing her down.
DeleteIt is all politics.
Seymour
This is all a smear campaign in an attempt to stop THE outstanding candidate becoming the next Archbishop of Wales. When Joanna becomes Archbishop, which she still will, then may God have mercy on your souls.
ReplyDeleteCommittee Member
How could it possibly be a "smear" campaign when DodoJo wrote the vitriolic tweet and DodoJo deleted her Twitter account when challenged over it?
DeleteLux, anon is being ironical.
ReplyDeleteDom
Just watched a Dr Taylor Marshall Youtube video in which he explains that RC bishops who ordain women are deprived of their orders and the females excommunicated.
ReplyDeleteNo chance of that in the Anglican Communion. The legal complications are unthinkable, as Ann Widdecombe explains in another Youtube video about any attempt to change same sex marriage.
I fear we have lost the battle. Female clergy are a disaster.
Rob
There's no shame in losing a battle as long as we win the War.
DeleteRuth,
DeletePlease expand.
R
The War for the soul of the Church in Wales, being over-run by the dissolute and deviant in the name of the secular woke virtue-signalling agenda of the permissive society in which feelings override facts.
DeleteWill that be enough for you to come back at me and slate me off?
Apologies. This comment was deleted in error:
DeleteRuth, you completely mistake me. I wish to be fair to all views expressed.
In my view there seems little hope of avoiding the situation you describe through the activity of the existing bishops; the best hope of keeping authentic Christianity alive seems to lie with individual parishes.
It's just that the resistance to the feminist struggle to ordain women has been unsuccessful. I take no delight in stating this.
Rob
Ruth.
DeleteAnd what makes you think I am 'a bloke'? You're obsessed with gender.
Ruby
The letter issued to each congregation 'without comment' may be found at:
ReplyDeletehttps://anglican.ink/2021/06/19/bishop-of-st-davids-takes-sick-leave/
CEH
The bishop is under doctor's orders: so prayers for her recovery to full health, the transformation of her secular ideologies and the abandonment of her feminist views.
ReplyDeleteRob
Abandon her feminist views Rob?
DeleteNever never never trust a rabid feminist!
She has earned the same fate as the money changers in the temple of Jerusalem.
DeleteThe only remaining question is who will overturn her table and drive her out?
Andy Pandy lacks the necessary testicles and prefers to close ranks.
Going on long term sick leave seems to be a very common reaction of bullies in the workplace who get found out and held to account, as is closing ranks by disreputable employers and senior managers.
DeleteLike so many of her ilk she can dish it out to her juniors but she can't take it when the boot is on the other foot.
One wonders just how much closing ranks would be in evidence had she tweeted "Never never never trust a Jew" or "Never never never trust a black"?
DeletePerhaps only discrimination against Tories and traditionalist Anglo-catholics doesn't require immediate resignation from Church in Wales?
And she has form for bullying - and not just juniors but the elderly retired clergy too.
DeleteTeilo
She got carried away with her tweets - no big deal. Forgive. Move on. Show some love.
ReplyDeleteRuby
It's DodoJo who needs to move on.
DeleteShow her the door, the sooner the better.
Sorry but this is more than getting carried away. This was constant bashing of over 4 years. Clergy cannot do/say things like that. Bishops need to be an example to us all.
DeleteLlechryd
I fear the tweets just show the hatred in her heart towards those who do not hold her political views so it's not a case of getting carried away with tweets.
DeleteWhile on politics......
Clergy are oddly encouraged to stand for county council's despite that being a 3-4 day a week paid role. I believe a Priest should also be careful with politics as standing for one party means alienating those who disagree with them. But how can you be paid to do two jobs at the same time anyhow? I know where it has happened the parishioners are left abandoned.
Sadly Ruby, in regards to forgiveness, the offended are not just readers of this blog who happen to be tories (myself included). There are countless tories in Wales who have been trolled by Joanna over a sustained period. An apology is neither credible or sufficient because of the huge offence and scandal she has caused. I'm not sure I've personally accepted her apology as I don't believe it's sincere.
ReplyDeleteWHAMAB (Tory party member)
What started with the Bishop of St Davids has spread to the pews. The Bishop of Bangor has now found himself apologizing yet again to a Tory MP for someone in his diocese slagging off the MP for Ynys Mon.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-57585365
Seymour
Since when are Bishops responsible for what any lay-person says just because they are a member of one of our churches?
DeleteWhen it starts with a Bishopette setting a bad example perhaps?
DeleteYou have got to wonder what parallel universe the Bishop of Bangor is living in. His statement on the Church in Wales website is risible. "The Church in Wales seeks to be welcoming to everyone in the nation of Wales, regardless of whether or not they share our Christian faith. We do not discriminate..." Is he sure of that?
ReplyDeleteWhen he talks about "our Christian faith", the emphasis there must surely be on the word "our". The bishops' faith is not Christian at all; it is one which dethrones Jesus, abandons his teaching, abandons the traditions of the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church, consigns the Scriptures to the dustbin, and jumps on every depraved bandwagon that passes their way. What he meant was "our version of the Christian faith." I will give him credit for one thing: he is right in saying that I do not share his Christian faith, and nor do 99.2% of the population of Wales, who have voted with their feet.
The Bishop of St David's tweets are symptomatic of all that is wrong with the Welsh Bench. It's the "I am right, and everyone else is wrong" attitude. Unfortunately this time, the backlash against her has been so great, and from a few powerful people, that she thought it expedient to say sorry in order to save her job - and +Andy Pandy of Bangor has fallen for it. As for sick leave, you can guarantee that she was advised by the spin doctors in headquarters to take sick leave in order to remove her from the heat of the kitchen, and to engender sympathy towards her, which Ruby has fallen for. That woman has such a massive chip on her shoulder about men and politics, you could feed the third world with it.
Seymour
PP. How interesting to see The Prince of Wales at At David's Cathedral. But, +Andy there too, are we about to hear an announcement of his translation?
ReplyDeleteAs the end of the month fast approaches, what news of the garden leave, recuperation and reflection of DodoJo?
ReplyDeleteIs it worth opening a book on her next move AB?
My money is on her needing more time.
DeleteIf only she would b*gger off she could take as long as she likes.
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