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"Now a bishop must be above reproach, married only once, temperate, sensible, respectable, hospitable, an apt teacher, not a drunkard, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, and not a lover of money."
On 29th of July the Church in Wales Bangor charade moves to the diocese of Monmouth, the see of the second most senior bishop after the bishop of St Asaph, for the election of the 15th Archbishop of Wales.
Concerns have been expressed over the venue for the election but that the pantomime takes place in Monmouth appears curiously appropriate give the obsession of the bench with sex and same sex marriage and firsts. The bishop of Monmouth is a partnered lesbian who uses the Holy Eucharist to promote her sexual preference under the banner Beware! Our God welcomes all.
All, that is, who share the views of the bench. Believers in biblical orthodoxy are not welcome. There is no longer a pretense of twin integrities. Those promises were broken years ago.
Despite the elaborate electoral college procedure, Buggins' turn usually prevails but given the advancing age of the three most senior bishops who knows.
The choice beyond Buggins' turn is lamentable. It could have been avoided had the bishop of Bangor not delayed his retirement until after the new archbishop is appointed but there is no transparency, only rumour and speculation indicating self interest rather than the interests of the Church.
Given their penchant for 'firsts', the second most senior bishop, the bishop of Monmouth, would as archbishop give the bench two more firsts but a very long way from those of the past when firsts were in Theology,
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For what they're worth, I've posted my comments on the forthcoming election on Thinking Anglicans; this site told me they were too long, so I gave up.
ReplyDeleteSorry to read that John. Another blogging mystery!
ReplyDeletePresumably the comment referred to is the one contained in this link
https://www.thinkinganglicans.org.uk/election-of-the-archbishop-of-wales/#comment-487951
Diolch yn fawr.
ReplyDeleteI’m probably risking my virtual life by saying this on here, as I realised lesbian clerics are, shall we say, not ‘flavour of the month’ with some contributors. But in my view, the CiW could do an awful lot worse than elect +Monmouth as Archbishop. She may not be the most charismatic of people (and is certainly not what used to be known as a ‘show pony’) but my sources in Monmouth, Manchester and the national Church of England consistently praise her leadership skills and integrity. I also gather that she has a lot of respect from traditionalists in the C of E, and fully supports appropriate provision being made for them. So in comparison with the ineffectual catastrophe that has been the last Archbishop’s attempt at leadership, things would appear to promise to be very different in the hands of +Monmouth.
ReplyDeleteTraditionalists (who used to go by the name Christians, before the modern push to throw the Bible out with the Font Water) would object to any woman being a "Bishop" in the first place, the fact of her being lesbian is almost a minor detail after that great heresy.
DeleteFortunately I have chosen to no longer have any dealings with those who deny the Apostolic teachings so blatantly, I can but pray that some of them will be led back to the right path eventually.
Offa's trench has no respect from here.
DeleteI refuse to accept she's a priestess, much less a Bishopess.
Merely another deviant dressed as a wolf in sheep's clothing.
Bewildered
Traditionalists respecting a female lesbian bishop is an oxymoron.
DeleteFemale lesbian bishop is a treble oxymoron and simultaneously queered woke intersectionality.
DeleteAll sweet FA to do with Christianity and everything to do with Living in Lust and Filth.
Now these are the kinds of comment I expected. I’m not going to argue with you, as although I disagree, you’re as entitled to your view as I am to mine. All I will say is the more candidates with any backbone are ruled out, the higher the chances become of the next Archbishop being just more of the same.
DeleteI had high hopes of Dorrien Davies, until the stories of his strong support for Andy John started emerging. So if Cherry Vann is unacceptable, and Dorrien Davies has shown a major error of judgement in the face of a scandal, that only leaves John Lomas by my reckoning. What are the chances of all the electors uniting to elect him, I wonder?
The Cult in Wales (and its English equivalent) wouldn't be in this mess in the first place if its leaders had held true and firm to Biblical teachings and, just as importantly, Christian tradition. If 2000 years of tradition, handed down from the Apostles, is thrown out because of feminism and pandering to modern attitudes, a significant foundation is irretrievably lost and the Bible, as Protestants have discovered, doesn't work all that well as a standalone document.
Delete2 Thessalonians 2:
"Therefore God sends upon them a strong delusion, to make them believe what is false, so that all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness...
So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught by us, either by word of mouth or by letter."
@ Fr Duddleswell
DeleteEver considered what God's view might be?
All the time, but I never presume to know God’s mind on anything, even less to assume my views are God’s views.
Delete…apologies, I pressed publish before ready! I wanted to conclude my last one with… After all, discernment is a very inexact art and rests on the humility to realise we do our best to work out God’s views but can always be wrong as we are not God.
DeleteYou could post your comments here John, and spread them over several pages if necessary.
ReplyDeleteIt has been done before successfully.
We wouldn't go far wrong with the Bishop of Monmouth. She's sorted out the mess left behind from Richard Pain and healed the rift between those who supported him and those who reported him. Quite something.
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One believes you to be full of crap 💩💩
DeleteWell not really Episkopos, the evidence in Monmouth speaks for itself.
DeleteEpiscopuss
What evidence?
Delete🤣🤣You provide none.
ReplyDeleteThe meeting to elect a new Abp of Wales has been moved from Llandrindod to the very south-east tip of Wales, to the rather splendid St Pierre Manor Hotel, Spa, Golf Course etc, just outside Chepstow, with St Peter’s Church at the hotel entrance in the grounds. Why has it been moved?
Whatever the reason, and perhaps there is a justifiable one, in the eye of the public, especially that of the CinW worshipper, the question is why it’s necessary to use a hotel regarded as possibly the grandest in the County of Monmouthshire? The point here must be that spending, yet again, by the powers-to-be in the CinW, is not kept sufficiently in check. They never learn any lessons. Given the stories swirling around Bangor about utter profligacy - an alleged ordination party held in the Royal Thames Yacht Club in Knightsbridge at a cost of £52000 etc - surely it is not unreasonable for the congregants and contributors to the Church to expect careful stewardship? I’ve dined and stayed at the St Pierre more than once, and I cannot imagine it has changed and is now offering bargain basement prices. So the value for money argument holds no water for me at all.
All that's needed is a decent standard of accommodation, study bedrooms come to mind, so, what would be wrong with, say, St Padarn’s Institute in Llandaff, or St David’s College, Lampeter (which seems to need all the help it can get currently)? If they need to choose a different location from Llandrindod, why not use hotels owned and run by local families and give them support? The St Pierre is a Delta Hotel, a part of the huge multi-national Marriott organisation. It all beggars belief, but they evidently have no regard for the court of public opinion, and even less for the ordinary person in the pew.
The other relevant and intriguing issue is why this election is being held in the very south-east corner of Wales, as far as you can get from some other parts of Wales? Others, far more versed in CinW constitutional matters than am I, have quoted the chapter and verse where it is laid down that the election of the archbishop is to take place in Llandrindod. There may be good reasons to hold it elsewhere, but again, with their usual lack of transparency, openness or basic common decency to the membership of the CinW, there was no explanation of the change of venue in the announcement that appeared on the website on Tuesday. So much for transparency.
More follows ...
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Finally, on the matter of money, I know from the three parishes with which I am connected/where I worship (all in the South Wales Valleys, and not flush with cash) that it is very frustrating, galling even, to be expected to raise well over £150,000 this year for their Parish Share whilst the CinW centrally seems to have no money worries.
Please let me turn briefly now to the matter in hand next week, the election of the Archbishop of Wales, the fifteenth to occupy the post. Whatever the rights and wrongs, the constitution lays down that only the diocesan bishops can be candidates and that cannot be changed at present; others will no doubt be passing comments on the pool available and the talents thereof. All I would say is that, with the resignation, sorry I mean retirement of course(!!) of Andrew John, there are only five possible candidates. Of those, surely to heavens, anyone linked in any way with the Bangor debacle or with close links to Andrew John, cannot be seriously considered until and unless that whole matter has been transparently, fully and independently investigated, full findings published and recommendations made and accepted. This calls for total accountability and honesty from those involved.
Mary Stallard was Archdeacon of Bangor from 2018 and then Assistant Bishop of Bangor, albeit briefly; she was, in effect, Andrew John’s right-hand woman. Sadly, the affable, kindly and very pastoral Dorrien Davies, whom I have known since his time at St Michael’s College in the 1980s when he helped me in my role as Welsh tutor there, publicly endorsed and supported Andrew John during this crisis, and, I understand, was very strong in his backing for him during the relevant ‘crisis’ meetings recently. I feel that neither of these have clear water between themselves and both the goings-on at Bangor and Andrew John’s weak and ineffective leadership there. So, for me, there are but three potential candidates. I pass no comment on any of those.
We need to be able to look forward to a Church in Wales that makes the headlines for the good reasons, rather than the truly appalling stories, rumours, lack of transparency and, dare I say, attempted cover up, of the past few months. There are so many really splendid priests and laypeople working so hard in their communities right across Wales, flying the flag of the Gospel. They, and we, deserve so much better from the leadership. Let us hope that the work of rebuilding trust transparently and openly with us all is seen as a foremost priority. Whoever is elected as Primate next week will have a very hard job convincing me and, I venture to say, many others of this fundamental change.
Well said John.
ReplyDeleteWhy wouldn't the Malsters pub in Llandaff suffice?
Presumably not expensive enough?
You’ve had your win, John, Archbishop Andy has now laid down his crozier, removed his mitre, and taken off his episcopal ring, and all in full view of the Church and the wider world. His resignation was not just a stepping aside; it was an act of public shaming. For many, yourself included, who voiced strong and accusatory views on this blog, this was the outcome you wanted. I hope you’re satisfied. And yet, I can’t help but notice the apparent silence on this blog since this has happened. It’s been striking. The kind of silence that often descends on a community after a scapegoat has been ‘othered’, violated and cast out. There may be a sense of relief, even peace, for a time. But it is illusory, and not grounded in reconciliation, but in removal. In this case, the removal of Andy.
ReplyDeleteOf course, this kind of peace never lasts. And it is certainly not the peace that Christ gives: the peace rooted in grace and the hard work of listening and understanding. When a community turns against one of its own and convinces itself that unity can only be achieved by pushing someone out, the result may look like harmony, but it is such a false harmony, built on violence, scapegoating and blame. The deeper wounds remain unhealed. The pain is simply displaced and buried for a time, until it inevitably resurfaces and is directed at the next victim. Who will that be, I wonder, and what, oh, what have we done?
Kapparis
Andy Crap was NEVER one of our community and wasn't wanted but imposed by the usual suspects who think they know best, and don't.
DeleteAny silence on the blog I interpret to be a massive sigh of relief that the cretin has gone, and good riddance too.
Bewildered
Thank you for your comment. This sounds like David Morris crap! Sir Omicron Pi.
DeleteHardly.
DeleteKapparis
@Kapparis Andy actually admitted to failing his diocese. His resignation was entirely his own doing and not a minute too soon. Don't try to to revise history.
DeleteWhamab
I wholeheartedly agree with John's comments in his final paragraph above. I have been utterly dismayed at the behaviour of many of our senior clerics, not just in Bangor, but elsewhere and not just recently. The commitment from those struggling to build their local churches is betrayed in the face of bullying and misogynistic deans, bishops who are content to stay in their offices and not be seen far from home whilst openly disregarding that they must be above reproach in all things as pasters of our God. Anyone out there wishing to be an Archbishop, or Bishop as a result of these recent shenanigans should perhaps read and inwardly digest the writings of St Jude in his 'Letter of St Jude' (it's only 25 verses) before agreeing to promoting themselves and their whims upon the already damaged Church they are supposed to champion. Sadly, I expect to be dismayed again. But, I pray not!
ReplyDeleteForgive me if I seem to be a little confused. Minus Andrew remains the Bishop of Bangor until the end of August. He remains the Senior Bishop until that time. The Constitution requires the Senior Bishop to convene The Electoral College. Why is Cameron being named as The Senior Bishop? I'm sure some Constitutional Expert will satisfy my curiosity/ignorance ?
ReplyDeleteSir Omicron Pi
Like the constitution and the many interpretations, that is a whole nest of vipers I would not like to try to untangle!
ReplyDeleteIf the senior bishop is unwilling to act, then it passes to the next is the simple explanation.
ReplyDeleteA explanation on snub to Holy Trinity, Llandrindod Wells would've been appropriate. I believe a measure was passed to give the Standing Committee leeway in the venue around the pandemic.
Maybe it's a snub to John Lomas? Radnorshire is a wasteland under his tenure.
Whamab
On the contrary, Radnorshire is not a wasteland under John Lomas' tenure. Vacancies have been advertised and no-one applies. What is the man supposed to do, force people to go there? Drag them there kicking and screaming and induct them against their will? Rural ministry is not for everyone.
DeleteJohn Lomas is doing a fantastic job and taking his Diocese with him. You only have to attend the Chrism Mass or the Ordinations to see people gathering around their bishop. That was not the case under his predecessor, who alienated many.
John is pastoral to his clergy, is prepared to listen, is prayerful, and is prepared to act. He has prepared his Diocese for the report which is due to be released in September on Anthony Pierce. It will not be redacted. He has recognized that it will cause hurt and pain to many in the Diocese, but redacting it will cause even more hurt and pain to the victims. If Andrew John had been more open and honest when the two reports were published into his diocesan cathedral, the Church in Wales would not be looking for a new archbishop now.
Personally, I would like to see John emerge from the Electoral College as Archbishop. Unfortunately, I don't think John wants to be an archbishop. We need a person who is prepared to acknowledge the faults of the CiW, and expose them to the light of Christ, rather than brush them under the carpet.
Benedictus
Vacancies advertised and no-one applies.
DeleteSounds like a wasteland to me.
The cult in Wales is a joke and a swamp with Bangor another poisoned chalice.
I sincerely hope that nobody will be willing to become the next Archbishop.
Let it die and serve as a warning to others.
No disrespect, but bar Bishop David, they’re all reaching the end of their clerical careers and don’t quite have the stamina that this important role requires. Is there no way Bishop David can be appointed. He’s young enough and has the stamina. What are people’s thoughts?
ReplyDeleteElector
Fortunately he is not eligible
DeleteRoger Scruton
Bishop David+ is currently off with stress. Not sure he has the stamina for these times.
ReplyDeleteI am sorry to read that. The past months can’t have been at all easy for him. Hope the rest is recuperative.
DeleteElector
He’s not eligible. He’s not a diocesan.
ReplyDeleteBM
Oh bless. Not up to the job? Resign. Bloody Snowflake.
ReplyDeleteSir Omicron Pi.
St Asaph in poor health. St David's said to have followed Bangor in regularly overruling the provincial selection panel . S&B wants to retire. This leaves the 2 SE Walian lady bishops. One has Bangor previous, which leaves the other one. With luck and a following wind they'll elect her on the first day, which should save the RB a fair sum.
ReplyDeleteDo we even need an Archbishop? Time to flatten the hierarchy me thinks.
DeleteReformer
Where did you get all that information from Matthew? Particularly the bit about Bishop of St Davids. Woolly Sheep
DeleteW.Sheep: One Who Knows, although most of it is common knowledge.
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ReplyDeleteI'm curious, but not surprised, as to the negativity from a number of contributors around +Mary Stallard, suggesting that she is somehow implicated in what has happened at Bangor. In my 40 plus years experience of Cathedrals in England and Wales, Archdeacons and Assistant Bishops pop in to do whatever it they have been roped in for, and bugger off again. They usually have difficulty finding the right vestry. Suggesting that she would somehow know the ins and outs of what the Choir do after Evensong is, in my personal opinion, nonsense. Ah well, we'll see what transpires in the next few days, and I predict most contributors on here will find something to complain about.
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With respect, I feel it’s important to clarify that there is no “ins and outs” to be aware of regarding the Choir after Evensong at Bangor. Nothing unusual or noteworthy occurs during that time, and any assumptions to the contrary are misguided. While I appreciate the commenter’s broader experience with cathedrals, that general perspective does not appear to reflect the current reality here. It’s always better to speak from direct knowledge rather than speculation.
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@ Bangor Congregant
DeleteThis assumed you must have been at the said public house to vouch for the entire drinking session, that you refute the statements of those involved who came forward to both the media and the external 'investigators' and that you rubbish the integrity of those who conducted the enquiry. As you say 'always speak from direct knowledge'. I very much suspect you have none whatsoever other than some blind hope that everything about Bangor has been horribly untrue. In your words 'with respect' ... with respect, wind your neck in unless you were there and prepared to attest that those others who gave witness evidence are sheer liars.
@Ceri Llan
DeleteThank you for the dramatic monologue. I was not sure if I was reading a blog comment or the script for a budget courtroom drama. To be clear, I never said I was at any pub, and I certainly did not call anyone a liar. What I did say, and will happily say again, is that gossip dressed up as outrage does not make something true.
You have taken a quiet factual point about what does or does not happen after Evensong and spun it into a full blown fantasy involving media conspiracies and some imagined personal vendetta. It is impressive how much fiction you can produce in a single paragraph. If only the facts had made it in too.
As for your warning about sticking my neck out, you can relax. I have done quite the opposite. I have wound it in and watched others flap about with half the context and twice the confidence. There is a vast difference between having something to say and simply liking the sound of your own voice.
Bangor Congregant
I'm afraid to say Bangor Congregant but if you cannot see or acknowledge the harm done by the awful behaviour of some clergy and other leaders at Bangor to the reputation, or what little is left of it, of the Church in Wales and the Diocese, then you probably won't be a congregant for much longer because there'll be nothing to congregate for!
Delete@Not A Bangor Congregant
DeleteWhat a relief it must be to speak with such certainty from a distance. I have never denied that damage has been done. What I question is the gleeful rush to condemn without evidence, the recycling of gossip as gospel, and the bizarre assumption that shouting loudest makes someone right. There are real issues to face, but they will not be solved by anonymous indignation or keyboard theatrics. If you truly care about the Church in Wales, perhaps focus less on who stays in the pews and more on rebuilding something worth congregating for.
(Apologies AB, I was not sure if I wrote my pseudonym on my previous comment) Bangor Congregant
DeleteApparently, minus Morris' stress is not work related. It's all about the wedding preparations.
ReplyDeleteSir Omicron Pi.
Some of the regulars on here might be amused by the antics of the bishop of dressing down.
ReplyDeletehttps://news.sky.com/story/this-is-a-terrible-racket-bishop-in-dressing-gown-interrupts-church-concert-and-asks-crowd-to-leave-my-house-13402383
Seems to think he owns God's house.
Once a Freemason, always a Freemason. (Sorry, AB: 1st attempt was anon.)
DeleteIt's funny that you should bring up the brickies, Matthew. I always wondered about the odd way Randy Pandy clasped his hands in the official photo after he was elected Archbishop. I wish that whole thing would just disappear off the face of the earth. The partiality that groups like that breed damges society: appointments to senior positions based on such affiliations and through opaque processes do not give me faith that we are led by the brightest and best.
DeleteYou can rest assured Dafydd that we're definitely not led by either the brightest or the best.
DeleteQuite the opposite as the chocolate teapot has demonstrated so (un)ably.
Bewildered
Where are the electors staying? Celtic Manor? There are only 5 possibilities to discuss after all? You'd assume 1 or 2 would rule themselves out at the start?
ReplyDeleteMary is tainted, John L is not interested, Gregory is part of the problem and Cherry does not have the charisma. Isn't Dorrien a slam dunk, what's to talk about?
Whamab
I'm sure all the contenders will have seen and digested all our comments over the past weeks, and probably long before. Maybe, just maybe, they will all confirm they have read that Letter of St Jude in the past few days and can confirm their consciences are clear. Probably dismayed again.
DeleteIts not such a 'big ask' is it. Ensconce 40 or so numbskulls into a five-star hotel and set them a simple task. Out of five wishy-washy Anglican bishops, pick the one that's the most likely to swiftly and finally bring an end to the Church-in-Wales so that once ruined then as with Ralph Waldo Emerson: 'out of weakness we find new strength'.
ReplyDeleteBarry Morgan had a good go at collapsing the C-in-W and nearly achieved it, but then mantle fell on John Davies (2017-2021) who was too lazy and dim-witted to follow-through with a coup-de-gras. Then Andy John who tried his best by annoying everyone and scheming various ways of bringing the church into disrepute but no one took much notice of him. He was written off almost as soon as his Enthronement was over.
Now we have the debacle of 40 or so unknowns who can't even two-thirds decide on the worst of the bunch to elect so that the rest of us can be swiftly put out of our misery and the powerhouse of the RB, GB and C-in-W is finally and painlessly put to sleep.
I take no comfort from learning that they interrupt their deliberations by breaking off for silent prayer to God seeking guidance and Spiritual interventions. If God were listening, he'd probably say: 'Knock it on the head. Vote for Sion ap Rhys or Jeremy Corbyn. Let the church collapse next day and then talk to me next week to see how we can re-build it' Finding someone of the Famous Five to lead us forward is asking God for the impossible.
I found this quite funny.
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@ Old Bill is half right but wrong in all the loudest places. The bishops have indeed failed — not through evil genius or sinister plotting, but through a steady cocktail of complacency, clerical vanity, and a total inability to read the room. They sit in five star comfort pondering decline as though it were a philosophical problem, not something they helped accelerate with every blind appointment, dodged question, and pious press release. If the Church in Wales is on life support, it is because its leaders have mistaken collars for competence and consensus for courage. But calling for total collapse while mocking silent prayer is just lazy theatre. Let them pray, by all means, but let us also demand they answer for the silence that came before it. The damage was not done in one election or one archbishop’s term. It has been drip fed over years by bishops too insulated to notice the floor beneath them rotting away.
DeleteBangor Congregant
I can't agree with you that the fools were too insulated not to notice the rot.
DeleteTheir "ignorance" was quite deliberate and wilful, the "we know best" variety.
Don't forget, Satan's imp Barry Morgan searched high and low to discover who was behind the Llandaffchester Chronicles before blackmailing them to desist and close because it was getting far too hot in the kitchen for him.
Likewise, Ancient Briton but thankfully AB remains undiscovered and unbowed.
Siôn ap Rhys should have had Diane Abbott in charge of the accounts.
ReplyDeleteOr Peggy "the tax man will never know" Pilate.
DeleteSiôn ap Rhys was less a bishop in waiting and more a liturgical cabaret act with a thurible. He floated through Bangor like a Vatican themed panto dame, swaddled in brocade, trailing clouds of incense and self importance, with lace so elaborate it needed its own pageboy. Beneath the cassock? Stockings and a garter, naturally, because what is sacred leadership without a hint of burlesque. One suspects the only spreadsheet he ever opened was embroidered, and the only balancing he did with the accounts was matching them to his seasonal vestments. The man did not so much minister as perform, and the only mystery he ever truly honoured was where the budget went.
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Bravo 👏👏 BC.
DeleteYou've made my morning.
So Cherry Vann is to be the new Archbishop.
ReplyDeleteGreat news and some hope for the CiW at last.
ReplyDeleteAlleluia! What wonderful news for the Church in Wales
ReplyDeleteHopeful
Disaster piled upon disaster.
ReplyDeleteBewildered
definitely DISMAYED.
ReplyDeleteCongratulations to the new Archbishop of Wales, a grounded and sensible appointment, arriving just in time to save the Church from what could have become a cathedral stage show in three acts. Because if Siôn ap Rhys, former Sub Dean of Bangor, had ever come close to climbing higher, the liturgy would have become theatre and the incense would have needed air traffic control. Picture it. Handel’s Arrival of the Queen of Sheba roars from the organ. The incense rolls. And Siôn glides into view, cassock tailored within an inch of its life, lace trailing like a bridal veil with ambition. Stockings smooth and unbothered. The mitre tall enough to block the east window. The crozier dazzling under its own spotlight. Within weeks, Bangor Cathedral would have been transformed into a vision of pure ecclesiastical opulence. Marble candle platforms. Velvet lined liturgical cupboards. Hand stitched altar cloths with matching seasonal fragrances. The sacristy would be rebranded entirely. The accounts? Gone. Quietly folded into a drawer marked confidential next to a catalogue of jewel toned chasubles and a handwritten invoice for silk kneeler covers with gold tassels. Every blessing would come with a glance and a breeze. Thankfully, he resigned before the communion rail was gilded and we are left with leadership rather than lace.
ReplyDeleteBangor Congregant
I think Bangor Congregant has been busy on ChatGBT. Not wrong in sentiment though.
DeleteElect-her
Cherry will be the kiss of death.
ReplyDeleteThe swamp overfloweth.
She can kiss me to death anytime.
DeleteCheriffic
Given that +Mary Stallard was Assistant Bishop of Bangor during the time when SRE was at the pinnacle of his powers and did nothing (apparently) to stop him; why seemingly was the former archbishop held to account and not Mary Stallard?
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