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| Archbishop of Wales, Andrew John addressing Governing Body Source: CinW |
The Church in Wales reports that the topic chosen for the Archbishop's presidential address was pollution:
"Rivers, he said, were dying because of pollution."
Pollution is a subject on which the archbishop must have felt well qualified to speak having been an enthusiastic polluter of the faith in the Church in Wales although he did attract some criticism.
Likewise from the pews which are swiftly emptying.
Sympathy and understanding of personal issues which contradict scripture have been turned into celebration and promotion relegating the Church in Wales to little more than another secular institution promoting secular ideals.
It is no surprise that Anglicanism in Wales is doomed.
Was there any mention of the outcome of this initiative from last year?
ReplyDeleteIt shouldn't take long as most Churches in Wales are empty and therefore using little gas or electricity.
https://www.churchtimes.co.uk/articles/2023/14-april/news/uk/carbon-emissions-of-churches-in-wales-to-be-calculated
I take it that his congregation did not sing "Shall we gather at the river?"
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ReplyDeleteAmong umpteen other welcome changes at Bangor since the disappearance of Bargain Booze Sion ap Rhys is that this weekend the 24-hour burning electric light left permanently switched on day and night for the last six years outside his Deanery has been eventually switched off. It might just have burned itself out after years of 'on switch' or someone in Bangor has the news that the chap isn't returning. For the eight weeks since his flight from Bangor no one from the cathedral's Net Zero committee dared switch it off for fear of his wrath should he return.
And in another positive move Minor Canon Josie Godfrey has boxed up her Roman laced and silken garb and now wears the vestments of an ordinary C-in-W priest and has also dropped her moniker of 'Mother Josie'. Normality is returning which seems more than can be said for the sub-standard Dean
Metropolitan plod up to their usual tricks again.
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Consistently corrupt.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-68922874
DeleteMisfeasance in public office and false imprisonment.
Metropolitan plod, thick as mince.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/05/01/police-officer-charged-terror-offence-hamas/
DeleteWest Yorkshire Plod now reaping the rewards of the multicultural enrichment experiment.
Car theft has effectively been decriminalised.
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No real surprises but metropolitan plod is the least effective force in the land, failing to solve a staggering 85% of car thefts.
Bewildered
Metrosexual plod, ineffective as ever.
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Rowley deserves to be sacked on the spot.
Normality is also returning as the congregational numbers are also down substantially on where they were while sub standard pontiff was in charge.
ReplyDeleteHow would you know?
DeleteAre attendance or communicant numbers published?
In Llandaff such data is kept Top Secret to hide the embarrassing reality of the terminal decline.
@Anonymous [no pseudonym]
ReplyDeleteNot exactly true if you dig deeper. The (-) dip in bums on seats at Bangor always happens when the choristers (the school aged children) are absent from Sunday services and thus their doting mummies and daddies and fanzone 'cheer-leaders' are not there to urge them on. And given the huge numbers of adults and children Bangor cathedral's choir has grown to - out of all proportion to a small cathedral church - then their stay-at-home might be noticed. No real loss to the cathedral as their true purpose in attending - which is to worship their children rather than to worship God - is unwanted.
The other slight seasonal variation is explained by the Academic Year as it affects the city's large University student population. Except for that the cathedral 'membership' of faithful congregants even at the early 08.15 service is holding up well ... and certainly more cheerful and 'godly' than when the bitter-vine of ap-Rhys's ministry was wringing the heart out of it. Testimony perhaps is that for the consecration of the very popular David Morris as Bishop of Bardsey St Deiniol's is an all-seats sell-out ... presumably not filled by the 11 residents of the Llyn Peninsula little 'diocese'!
Andrew John however ought to take no comfort from the fact that in the following month there will only be one candidate for ordination (Josie Godfrey). Under his watch at Bangor no one else from the diocese has the slightest interest in becoming either deacon or priest in his patch. ap Rhys was much to do with that dismal outcome too.
Oops! Slipped up there but demonstrates why anonymous commentators need to supply a pseudonym for identification purposes.
DeleteThere used to be a very good choir at Bangor. But wonderful organists were forced out by awful deans.
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ReplyDeleteCorrection Sir. It was choir masters or directors of music who were forced out by various awful deans - Susan Jones particularly. Bangor's excellent and long-suffering organist Martin Brown has been at the console for more than 25-years unscathed by the whims of idiots; probably because his excellence is irreplaceable.
They should have made him Director of Music. (I meant organist in the old sense, DoM was always just called organist in the past.)
ReplyDeleteIsn't nostalgia a wonderful thing?
ReplyDeleteCar crash Cathy, cyanide Sue and now inSincerity Sion, all gone with a puff, or poof, of wind and none of them missed.
Who will be the chocolate teapot's next mug?
How about Shakerly, the unpleasant Dean of Brecon who is in a long running feud with the rather hopeless Stephen Power, the director of music. Official complaints, disciplinary hearings etc abound, while Jon Pilgrim, the assistant organist has been on gardening leave for months. Shakerly and his side kick, Steven Griffith, have a track record of being pompous, lazy and very good at driving out colleagues...Michael Thomas and Mark Clavier are just two who come to mind. Complaints about the Dean to the Bishop have gone on for years ( going back to John Davies) and seem to fall on deaf ears. At least Clavier is making a huge success of St Marys ( which had been run into the ground by Griffith) and has taken most of the cathedral congregation with him.
ReplyDeleteNot forgetting how the original Chapter members were treated.
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@Ancient Briton
DeleteThe only thread related to your title 'Pollution' running through these pages and pages spanning back so many years to the time of Barry Morgan is the pollution of all Christian values towards care, love, understanding, huggy-huggy etc our 'faith' - Christ's teaching - and values are supposed to perpetuate. How on earth our various recent Archbishops and bickering bishops, our snide and machinating Deans and the Vestry phonies who contrive against each other has allowed the C-in-W membership base to become so polluted with ill-will - and perpetuate it - is beyond me. Yes: I too have fallen into the trap. But no wonder really when the tittle-tattle among priests badmouthing each other is rampant; chief among them apparently is the Lord Bad-Mouth Andrew John and his former Adjutant the AWOL sub-dean of BANGOR ap-Rhys-the-Magnificent.
Let the Environment Agency or Resources Wales attend to our Rivers and perhaps the hypocrite archbishop of Wales turn his attention to ridding the Church [beginning with his own clergy and diocesan officers] of the pollution of ill-will, denigrating of colleagues and lay, falsehoods, defamatory attacks and general schoolgirl bickering.
Those who know me better know I once served among some of the hardest, no-nonsense and potentially 'dirtiest' of hit-em-hard men you could meet. Never once during service or in the years of their or my retirement have I heard any one of them backstab the other, miscall or blemish their colleagues or 'Corps' and when they heard of others do it they would rally to a mass defence.
Oh that today's badly prepared and poorly trained Anglican priests and communicants could spend a week in their company to learn a thing or two about respect, loyalty and comradeship and more so, how other organisations weed out the chaff so that criticisms at later stage become unnecessary.
Ut fata trahunt,
Old Bill [Ret'd]
How on earth do these pompous individuals get appointed to cathedrals? At least St Asaph has a great Dean. A bishop in waiting, surely. Surprised he wasn’t made assistant bishop in Bangor. Perhaps he was asked?
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Benllech, the reason Dean Nigel has been overlooked is because he is far too orthodox and catholic in his thinking. It was a surprise that the Plankers approved the election of John Lomas as Bishop of Swansea and Brecon; another good man who is a shepherd rather than a manager. I am told that the Chrism Mass in Brecon this year was better attended than it has been in years. I suspect that has a lot to do with the respect people have for their bishop.
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The manipulations of Dean Shakerly, supported by the Druid/ Shaman Mike Williams as Chapter clerk, ensured that all the decent members of Chapter have long gone, allowing Shakerly to continue with his total disregard for people. As he often says ' I don't really like people'. He came close to being kicked out of the church in Doncaster, but was selected by Bishop John Davies to be Dean of Brecon despite his awful reputation. As for Steven Griffith, his catch phrase is ' I was in the army you know'... pity he didn't stay there.
ReplyDeleteIt's a pity the Archbishop did not talk about what Jesus did for us on the Cross on Golgotha, and how we are redeemed by His Precious Blood, and about the Glorious Resurrection. These are the things that people should be hearing about. I'm sure if he looked in the ordinal, one of the main tasks to which he is called is to be chief minister and pastor. He is to be the centre of unity, a teacher of the Faith, and a guardian of discipline in the Church. He is to preach the Gospel...and guide the people of God in the way of eternal life. If he has mislaid his ordinal, maybe he can turn to his Bible and see what qualifications a Bishop ought to have.
ReplyDeleteWell said Father, but can the chocolate teapot even read?
DeleteRandy Pandy is the centre of stupidity, nothing more.
DeleteThe culture of bullying at Brecon Cathedral and a rapidly shrinking congregation deserve their own posts. The Cathedral hardly has anything to do with the town or the Diocese. It's becoming more of an events venue than a Cathedral. I hear that they recently set up dining tables in the sanctuary in front of the high altar for a Murder Mystery. A lot of people are very unhappy.
ReplyDeleteSpeaking of pollution and pollutants,bully boy --Bazza is busy trying to keep his name in the press, as if he was ever relevant to anyone in Wales.
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Still trying to pull the levers and strings from his technology room in Llys Ego.
His --Darkness was banned from Llandaff Cathedral by Caiaphas.
DeleteProbably only the second decent thing she did during her five year stint, after finally getting rid of the Capon.
Bully boy --Bazza, Peggy the Pilate, Philip Mason, Christopher Smith and Steven Kirk are not the only Church Choir vandals.
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DEI management word salad is alive and well in Winchester.