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Saturday 22 August 2020

Llandaff Cathedral Today


#WHERELOVEMATTERS              Llandaff Cathedral and The Deanery from the Cathedral Green


The Cathedral and Parish Church of Llandaff is dedicated to Saints Peter and Paul with Saints Dyfrig, Teilo, and Euddogwy.

Today the dedication might just as well be to Pan and Faunus with Nymphs and Satyrs.

In Llandaff Matters, love is primarily synonymous with sex:

"Join us on Sunday 30 August at 1400 for a special Pride Cymru Faith Tent event
featuring a video from Bishop June, a panel discussion, live music and reflection.

In collaboration with The Gathering LGBT+ Church, this free event will be streamed on
the Pride Cymru Facebook page."

Llandaff Cathedral today, #WHERELOVEMATTERS!

Llandaff's Director of Ministry and Discipleship Canon Richard Lowndes CinW

If the Church in Wales had spent as much time and effort in retaining faithful disciples as they have promoting same sex attraction they would not be in the mess they are.

Postscript [31.08.2020]

This from a 'bishop' of the Church in Wales:

"I'm a great believer in the importance of Pride." - Bishop June Osborne.
Full message here. June graduated in sociology,

8 comments:

  1. Ironic when I look back a mere four decades to an episcopal bench all too routinely nudged and panicked into an obsessive and sometimes really cruel puritanism by fear that the likes of the 'Sun' would uncover some clerical sex scandal in the Welsh church. Though Bishop Poole-Hughes proved himself an exception in one particular instance that I remember.

    Now pretty much anything goes in that area of life. My feeling is that there was a servitude to the fashion of the time then, when wider society still expected the clergy to uphold a morality in personal relationships which it had largely abandoned. And now, when wider society expects the church to be 'inclusive', the bench follows suit. Then and now they prove themselves 'dedicated followers of fashion'.

    But the fashion, both then and now, is wholly secular in its origin.

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  2. The smart money on The Green says it will be poorly attended and as much use as the 'Sneak-a-peak' shambles a few years ago.
    But no doubt there will be lots of highly selective and heavily edited photos splashed all over the next Majestas magazine with the usual declarations of it being an outstanding success because we say it was an outstanding success.

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  3. This could easily be seen as divisive. The people for whom this service is devised ask for inclusion but here we are with a specific service wholly dedicated to them. Why? Personally, I would welcome anyone to the church, irrespective of nationality or sexual orientation as I truly believe that the church exists to guide and support us all through life with all its joys and sadness. I draw the line though at same sex marriage as I see it as a corruption of the sacrament. If our lack-lustre bench can't see this, they will simply take another step to emptying the pews more quickly that is the case at present. No doubt I'll be vilified in some quarters for expressing such unfashionable views but the church should be seen to lead society not follow it as it is intent on doing at the moment.
    Nemesis

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  4. Baptist Trainfan25 August 2020 at 13:13

    A genuine question for Anonymous above. You say that you "would welcome anyone to the church, irrespective of ... sexual orientation" but "draw the line though at same sex marriage". Would you therefore welcome into church a known married same-sex couple?

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    1. As far as I am concerned Christian marriage can only exist between a man and a woman.
      All else is deviant and a travesty of Godly order.

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    2. Yes, I would welcome them as individuals but I wouldn't consider them to be married in the way in which I understand Christian marriage. As Enoch says, Christian marriage can only exist between a man and a woman.
      Nemesis

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  5. Alwyn from Abertawe28 August 2020 at 15:50

    When you next see him, ask Richard Lowndes what significant rite of passage took place at the 1985 Eisteddfod Genedlaethol. Then watch his complexion change.

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  6. In the importance of which other deadly sins is Caiaphas a great believer?

    Beware false prophets, they walk among us.

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