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Friday, 2 February 2018

Destructive and outrageous


Rachel Treweek was the first female bishop to sit in the House of Lords     Source: Christian Today

The Bishop of Gloucester, Rachel Treweek, has blasted the presence in Church House, Westminster,  of Jules Gomes, formerly a priest at St Mary's on the Harbour on the Isle of Man, who addressed a group of supporters of the former Bishop of Chichester, George Bell, who is accused of historical sex abuse.

She said it is 'outrageous' that a disgraced priest banned from ministry has been allowed to speak at the Church of England's headquarters. There is another side to that story in the following video (5 mins in).



Choosing to ignore our great British tradition of freedom of speech, bishop Treweek said "I think it is outrageous that he [Jules Gomes] has been allowed to speak at Church House under that title ['Rebuilding bridges'] when his writings demonstrate that he is not up for living in reconciliation or relationship.'

Her objection was that Gomes had been "invited to speak under that 'wonderful title' whereas all his writings about me and other bishops who are women are being destructive and destroying bridges not building them".

So in her view opposition on theological grounds to the ordination of women is "destructive"! Treweek was not only priested but consecrated bishop in an organisation which claims to belong to the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church while adopting its own rules to permit the ordination of women against the wishes of the vast majority of Christians, including most Anglicans. The decision was a huge impediment to unity. That was destructive.

Not content with their members being admitted to the priesthood and the episcopate, the feminist organisation Women and the Church (WATCH) has persistently tried to undermine the process which enabled them to be ordained. That is outrageous.

15 comments:

  1. She is not exactly showing love for her enemies is she?

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  2. AB - are you really so desperate to push your agenda (something you often accuse the CinW of doing) that you would do so behind this man? Would it be possible to be any more of a hypocrite? Perhaps check for the plank in your own eye before so readily calling out the speck you see in others. Idiot! La Sophia

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    1. Oh BM. Don't be a plonker all your life me old son. You've lost it. Remember?

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  3. Leaving aside who raised this issue (male/female, bishop-or-not) it is a bit of a flat footed 'own goal.' I was always told, if you can't say it with flowers, don't say it at all. We all know the media is only interested in the Church when there is conflict or scandal. Talking of which, have you seen today's Western Mail? Like Lady Bracknell before her, June must be telling herself that one piece of unfavourable scrutiny in the WM is unfortunate; but two begins to look like carelessness on the part of an unpopular and incompetent Dean.

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  4. Dear Hymn Singer - not everyone to the East of Offa's Dyke reads or subscribes to the Western Mail - do pray tell us more.

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    1. Take a look at Ancient Briton's thread "When in Rome!" Father, you will see it all laid out for you :-D

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  5. I have never met Rachel Treweek, but assume she must be firmly 'on message' to have been allowed to become Bishop of Gloucester at a time when the level of 'control from above' in the C of E is now making Barry the Golfer look like a model of generous collaboration.

    But what I have seen of her on the telly and in the House of Lords makes me wonder: is Treweek just a clever nom de plume? Is she, in fact, Wendy Craig on tranquilisers?

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  6. Fr David, the Western Mail (printed version only, it seems, I can't find anything online yet) has a piece by Martin Shipton, their chief political reporter, on the shenanigans over the organ accounts at Llandaff Cathedral and the disposal two Davids.

    Interesting, don't you think, that the Morrell Spin Machine rushed to get news of the Review of Llandaff Cathedral out yesterday, the day before Martin Shipton's piece appeared? Too much of a coincidence, I would say.

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    1. Can someone please scan and reproduce both of those Western Mail articles for those of us without access to the Western Mail print version?

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    2. Perhaps Ancient Briton might be persuaded to start another thread with the scanned articles appearing in colour?

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  7. Alwyn from Abertawe3 February 2018 at 17:58

    Talking of coincidences, Hymn Singer, did anyone else spot Napoleon and Josephine at St German's, Roath, last night, cheering on Llandaff Cathedral choir on one of its rare outings to a place of prayer and worship? I bet there were a few priceless gems uttered over something liquid afterwards.

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    1. Yes, recently Napoleon has been spotted sniffing around St German's. Let's hope he's not there to give advice to the parish on matters financial!

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  8. Just read the public press release on the CiW Website for Llandaff Cathedral Review, very enlightening.PP.

    http://llandaff.churchinwales.org.uk/news/2018/02/cathedral-review

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  9. Those people should change their name by two letters: change 'and' to 'in' and you get the true meaning of their message.
    James Morgan
    Olympia, WA, USA

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