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Wednesday, 26 April 2023

Favoured clergy

Source: Church in Wales Monmouth Diocese News

Inclusion and diversity give way to exclusivity at the bishop of Monmouth's LGBTQIA+ social evening to be held at the bishop's residence next month.

Imagine the outcry from allegedly discriminated against LGBTQIA+ people if there were a social evening for straight clergy and their partners at which gay and lesbian clergy were excluded.

Reading the bishop's invitation one wonders just how many gay and lesbian clergy there are if guests are directed to use an overflow carpark around the cathedral.

Postscript [27.04.2023]


"Bishop of Monmouth Cherry Vann will celebrate communion,..
It is open to LGBTQIA+ people and allies of any Christian tradition, or none."

Better to be queer than Christian in the Church in Wales which continues to discriminate against Anglicans who remain faithful to biblical teaching and tradition.

49 comments:

  1. Deviants and perverts Party.
    Typical of the Cult in Wales.

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    1. You’d be most welcome Menai. You’re a deviant yourself. Bet you’re a hoot!

      Rhydderch

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    2. Yawn.
      Boring. Again. 😴 😴 😴

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  2. Will Dick the Dean and his "husband" be going or is it just the Gwent deviants?

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  3. Plenty of lesbian Archdeaconesses in Gwent to make up the numbers for Offa's trench. After all, she appointed them.

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  4. Enough is enough - time to return to Christian basics.

    LW

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    1. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65407553

      Pity that Pope Francis is foolishly stepping out onto the very slippery slope.

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    2. I seriously doubt Cherry and her ilk were ever in touch with "Christian basics".
      How could they return to that with which they have never been acquainted?

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  5. I might pop along. Sure I’m a heterosexual man and not ordained, but who’s to say I can’t identify as a lesbian vicar that day?

    AJ

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  6. If I were Bishop Stewart Bell I would turn up at the Communion Service and present myself at the altar since it is open to Christians of any tradition.
    Seymour

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    1. Hopefully he will do just that and turf Cherry out of Gwent!

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    2. This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

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    3. Bugger Gwent.
      Cherry needs to be turfed out of Wales altogether!
      Let her take her apostasy back to England.

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  7. Who could possibly have predicted it?
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65438581
    The Guardian accused of anti-semitism, of all things.
    That bastion of the right-on virtue-signalling PC feminist LGBTQIA+- liberal elite.
    Oh dear.

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  8. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/04/30/coronation-church-has-rediscovered-its-natural-authority/
    🀣
    Funniest thing I've read this week.

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  9. It would be interesting to know who is paying for the drinks and canape's at the bishop's little soiree. One would hope that the cost is not coming out of Diocesan funds.
    Seymour

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  10. ajustchurch1001 May 2023 at 10:12

    Come up to Bangor, there has been a lot of expenditure lately, much of it on wine I believe. Many of us are interested in where the funds are coming from. A recent comment from a long term member of the Cathedral congregation was “what has happened to our Easter Vestry where finances used to be published? We haven’t had the opportunity to ask questions for a long time.

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    1. 2020 Division1 May 2023 at 12:46

      Very rural in Bangor.
      Dick the Dean in Llandaff continues to organise post-Eucharist sherry in the Lady Chapel but who's covering any shortfall is anyone's guess.

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    2. The latest accounts reveal the Llandaff Dean & Chapter approved a budget with a £109k deficit for the last financial year but I see no record of the missing £70k having been recovered or an "Entertainment" budget that would cover Dick the Dean's Lady Chapel sherry parties.
      Where's the Bursar when you need him?

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  11. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/05/01/feminist-mp-edinburgh-fringe-gender-critical-views/

    SNP feminist MP event cancelled due to woke staff refusing to work at the venue because of her views on transgender issues.
    🀣 🀣 🀣
    You couldn't make it up!

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    1. Dai the druid2 May 2023 at 07:57

      Lesbian with gender critical views and politician who doesn't know better than to tow the trans line.
      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-65451979
      God forbid anyone should be allowed to think and express themselves freely. It's as bad as the tiny vocal minority wishing to close down a blog and contributors critical of the Church of England or the Cult in Wales.

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    2. Faith Militant2 May 2023 at 18:00

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cycling/65456752

      A bloke, previously ranked something like 550th in the men's sport, can now self-identify as a woman and claim the Queen of the Mountains jersey to boot.
      There's absolutely no point in real women taking part anymore.

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    3. Budweiser Light getting cancelled for going down the woke Trans route.
      https://www.nytimes.com/article/bud-light-boycott.html
      The cult in Wales take note.
      Then again, it was crap beer anyway.
      Bewildered

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    4. Menai Straight3 May 2023 at 07:49

      Trans female athletes are shameless cheats and thieves.

      https://www.telegraph.co.uk/columnists/2023/05/02/austin-killips-trans-cyclist-womens-sport-lia-thomas/

      The lycra doesn't lie though and alleluia for some common sense.

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  12. The Church has given in to irreligion and is past being able to advise on or restrain further apostasy. After LGBT and openly same sex at the highest clergy levels, one can only wonder what awaits us in the name of 'love'.
    LW

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    1. Menai Straight2 May 2023 at 12:04

      It's not even 'love' LW, it's not even just good old fashioned biological sex, but a parody of it, a perverted deviant parody. Nothing more.

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  13. What arrogant lives you non-LGBTQ+ contributors lead! You don't have the first notion of the courage it has taken for LGBTQ+ people to dare to live dignified, transparent and holy lives.

    I for one don't actually ask for favour as AB puts it, but simply the right to be treated with basic human respect. Many of you cannot muster even that. AB refuses, for example, to publish on this blog the 'fact' that atleast one of +Bell's daughters is lesbian - one is a highly acclaimed creative writer and lecturer at Birbeck, London and has published an anthology of her poems detailing her courageous experience as a daughter of a homophobic priest. AB silences that and refuses to publish it.

    LG

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    1. It's taken me three attempts to get that published. But thank you AB. I deem it relevant to the debtaes we're having here.

      LG

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    2. Your original comment was removed because the information could not be verified at the time LG but I am not sure of the relevance when bringing in other family members.

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    3. Gives context AB. Nothing is as black and white as this website likes to pretend. Don’t you agree?

      LG

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    4. LG. There is no argument against individual homosexual people. What they do - as for us all - is between themselves and God. They are just as loved.
      You seem to have no notion that the real argument is about equal marriage, etc, the desire to make homosexuality as normal and acceptable as heterosexuality when clearly it isn't.
      LW

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    5. I'm homosexual and faithfully married for 15+ years, I can't claim an equality of marriage, but I ask for the same dignity. I love my husband dearly and am the richer and the better for having married him. Does that make me less?

      LG

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    6. "What they do - as for us all - is between themselves and God. They are just as loved" - that's such a patronising and pejorative dismissal of LGBTQ+ courage. You mean well, but what you ultimately mean, is dismissive and homophobic.

      LG

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    7. Faith Militant2 May 2023 at 18:04

      Which part on the instruction for a man NOT to lie with a man isn't clear to you and your "husband"?

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    8. Explain, Faith Militant - what is your hermeneutic? Mine is one of suspicion.

      LG

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    9. Faith Militant2 May 2023 at 21:46

      No answer then.
      Entirely predictable evasion.

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    10. LG What exactly do you want us to do for you now? I'm truly bewildered.
      Victimhood?

      LW

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  14. Arrogant people certainly not those of us who are not homosexual are trying to live their lives

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    1. As are those of us who find ourselves (disadvantageously) homosexual. No special pleading, just fact.

      LG

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  15. Odd isn't it that in most major towns and cities, LGBTQ+ types gravitate to Gay Bars and Gay Strip Joints, and 'straights' frequent those where they feel comfortable without transvestites sitting alongside them or cross-dressing males lifting their frocks to have a pee at the urinals. The beer-brewing industry and night-time economy has figured this one out ... and it works well. Everyone happy.

    Its surely not beyond the wit of the LGBTQ+ lobby and intelligence of Bishops to follow suit. Nice 'pinko' rainbow-altar church for LG and his homosexual friends, and a healthy no 'aggro', no WOKE church for the straights. Problem might be in Wales of course; finding enough 'Straight' clergy to officiate at the hetrosexual orientated churches.

    And second thought, as with the selection of constituency Members of Parliament and even (dare I say it Zebedee) the Police Service, diocesan bishops should begin to ordain new priests according to demographic need: ie % new entrants based on diocesan numbers of gays in the community; % based on the known mix of evangelical v. high Anglo-catholic etc. Instead of this, our Bishops seem to simply thrust clergy of whatever orientation or theology/divinity at the parishes without a hoot's care who or what the congregants are or think. Madness. Not surprising that most Britons (Ancient or not) prefer the security and comfort of a well defined pub comfortable to their standards than spend an hour in a church where liturgy and sermonising is totally contrary to belief.

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    1. Our "bishops" have little from which to choose given the paucity and generally dismal quality of those ordinands coming out of St. Padarn's school of social work, wokery and buggery.
      Peggy the Pilate and her coven demanded that any ordinand who would not accept women's ministry should be turned away in any case. Even if that never became official policy from the GB, a £1 to a 1p it's happening anyway.
      Just look at the way Calvin Robinson was blatantly mistreated by Mullaly in London.

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  16. I have never been to a Gay Bar or Gay Strip Joint, segregation has never been my suit. As for Christ, I thought there was only one flock, one shepherd. You speak with forked tongue Ad Clerum, and I dislike it.

    LG

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    1. Faith Militant4 May 2023 at 20:10

      The Chippendales more to your tastes?

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    2. You seem to know a lot about gay subculture. Obviously closeted.

      LG

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    3. Faith Militant5 May 2023 at 14:21

      πŸ˜‚
      Yeah, right, obviously, whatever.
      Teilo seems to have your measure.
      Yawn. 😴

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    4. Would you like a lift Faith Militant ? Happy to pick you up.

      LG

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    5. Faith Militant10 May 2023 at 23:21

      You're not my type cupcake.
      I like women.
      You know, the XX variety, not the XY perverts that are pretenders.

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    6. No problem. We can’t all be homosuperior. Best of luck FM.

      LS

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  17. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-65468868
    "The truth means nothing in Policing now".
    Sounds more and more like the cult in Wales, does it not?

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