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| Source: Church in Wales |
From Church in Wales Diocesan news: Join Wales' Christingle service and help Faith in Families led by the Bishop of St Davids, Joanna Penberthy.
Nothing it seems prevents bishops of the Church in Wales from continuing as they please.
In a previous entry, The future of the Church in Wales from the Archbishop in waiting? I quoted Andy John's statement:
“I think the question whether Bishop Joanna resigns is done and dusted”, Bishop Andy states. “She made clear that she regretted what she had to say… I think if we cannot provide a way in which people can acknowledge wrongdoing, learn from their mistakes, and come back, then it begs questions about whether we believe people can change. Whether or not we think the Christian faith is about second chances. To me, fundamentally, it’s about that. And those who are baying and frothing at the mouth seem to me to be part of what I think is quite pernicious in society: which is that we dress up in virtue – or in the language of virtue – a kind-of campaign to persecute.”
This may explain some of the facial expressions when the statement of Bishop Andy’s election as Archbishop of Wales was read out. Joanna Penberthy can be seen beaming but not quite as ecstatically as June Osborne who could not wait to signal her approval of the 'wonderful news'.
Looking markedly less thrilled were the bishop of St Asaph and his compatriot in the GB gay blessings saga, the bishop of Monmouth. Following their 'success' at GB perhaps they believed the Pink News article headline, "Cherry Vann, the Bishop of Monmouth, is in the running to be elected the Church in Wales’ first lesbian archbishop."
Cherry may have been led to believe that her election would be another Church in Wales stitch up, a foregone conclusion as apparently was the GB same sex blessings vote when she arranged a victory dinner in advance of the debate.
No doubt from his statements the "bullying" bishop of Llandaff and bishop of St Davids will feel more secure under archbishop Andy than they would have under their junior, Cherry Vann, but Andy could surprise everyone now he actually holds the reins of power, such as it is.
Next though should be the long awaited Bishop Graham Jones report of the investigation into the departure of the former bishop of Monmouth.
An August update claimed the bench expected "to make progress quickly over the summer period" and to complete their work "in the autumn". Presumably 2021!
Postscript [10.12.2021]
Something fishy again?
I see the fulsome acclamation of the election to archbishop of the bishop of Bangor by the 'bullying' bishop of Llandaff has been rewarded with a personal archiepiscopal tweet to the diocese.
Perhaps June will now feel as secure as Joanna appears to despite their behaviour.
Juno - "Bishop Andy will help us bring new growth...".
ReplyDeleteI call bullshit.
He's failed miserably to do so for the last 13 years and nothing will change.
Do these cretins really think that the pew sitters just swallow their spouted PR lines unthinkingly?
Does she really think that the world believes that she believes it herself?
If so, she's utterly delusional.
Allegra Stratton has resigned as a result of her single fault;as a consequence of her repeated tweets Joanna Penberthy has ...
ReplyDeleteRob
Allegra is a former journalist for both The Guardian and the BBC, so she'd be on DodoJo's Christmas card list.
DeleteAt least Allegra Stratton has had the sense to do the decent thing, take responsibility and fall on her sword.
DeleteThe despicable Cobynista has not.
Good luck to her as it looks as if + Joanna’s Tory tweet was apocryphal. The Tory elite were partying at number 10 when the country was in total lockdown! You couldn’t make it up.
ReplyDeleteUnRuthy
The "several dozen staff" at No. 10 who were allegedly involved are hardly the "Tory elite".
DeleteSome staff at No. 10 won't even be Tories.
You are making it up.
You might as well claim all civil servants are Tories.
Rather like your statement that you'd rather be in Hell than with someone who quoted the new testament to you, you reveal more of your true colours.
Never, never, never trust untRuthy.
You misquote me cupcake, my comment about rather being in hell was in response to a very selective quotation condemning homosexuals and the like. To which end, I'd rather be in company with such sorts - in hell - than those who stand in judgement and assume a place in heaven. Hope that clears that up cupcake.
DeleteUnRuthy-telling-the-truthy
So I commented:
Delete“Do not be deceived, the immoral, the adulterers, homosexuals, thieves..... will not inherit the kingdom of God.
1.Corinthians 10”
UntRuthy replied:
“I doubt you will either Wick ... or if you do, I'd prefer to be in the other place.”
The only thing Gabriel got wrong here is that Wick didn’t actually quote the New Testament to UntRuthy, he just quoted it generally. It was nothing to do with her.
AJ
I call bullshit.
DeleteThe quotation provided by "Wick" was an accurate extract accompanied by the precise reference to it for, I imagine, clarification and the avoidance of doubt.
"Wick" was entirely non-judemental, unlike you.
Remind us all please untRuthy, who was the author of the letter to the Corinthians?
My comment above should have begun “Wick commented”, rather than “So I commented”. Autocorrect up to no good as usual. Sorry for any confusion.
DeleteAJ
@untRuthy
DeleteKindly explain your basis for slatgging of the "Tory elite" and supporting DodoJo's bigotry whilst completely ignoring her hero Corbyn sitting down to a dinner for nine during the rule of six???
The Labour "elite" are every bit as bad as the Tory "elite" but Boris wasn't at the party whereas Corbyn was caught on camera.
I call hypocrisy.
UntRuthy is a Troll.
DeleteAs well as a moron.
But she's still entitled to her uneducated opinion.
Cupcake.
In Joanna Penberthy's latest letter to St Davids's clergy she reveals no indication of even having considered her position. It appears to be business as usual - although without the three St Davids clergy who resigned over the same-sex legislation.
ReplyDeleteRob
Not sure the three who resigned will be missed - I was at college with one of them - absolute misogynist and he had no time for LGBTQIA+ folk, by which I mean, he did not so much 'love the sinner' as totally ignore their very existence. Not the sharpest tool by any means. Nice house he's eyed up for himself though - oh the sacrifice!
DeletePadarnsPoofter
The other side of that coin is that he had the misfortune to be at college with you.
DeleteSounds like he was merely a traditionalist who didn't agree with the Ordination of women and the queering of the Church in Wales.
No doubt, he speaks very highly of you too PadarnsPoofter.
Of one thing we can be sure,
Deletewhen he was alive St. Padarn would neither have condoned nor supported your "lifestyle choices" much less admitted you to "his" theological college.
It sounds as though there's more poofery than theology going on there but that hardly comes as a surprise nowadays.
Despite your negative comments about the young Priest who resigned PadarnP**fter (note the avoidance of homophobic hate speech), he did resign on principle. Agree or disagree, he did feel this was the only way he could remain true to the Apostolic faith. When all is said and done, despite the protestations of bishops, clergy and lay, the apostles of Christ would never ever sanction SSB or SSM. This fact was the key driver in those clergy resignations, at least give them credit for that.
DeleteWHAMAB
Please don't hold back Whamab, call a spade a spade, especially when PadarnsPoofter labels him/herself so openly.
DeleteWake up and realise that Political Correctness is a toxin.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-59614734
ReplyDeleteThe cultural enrichment experiment in our green and pleasant land continues, but is there even one of the plank sitters that has the courage to speak out?