Wednesday, 20 July 2022

Affirming love!


Pride Eucharist. Vicar of Abergavenny with bishop Cherry Vann at St Mary's Priory. Source: Twitter

From the Church Times: "Love knows no boundaries":

"The Rt Revd Anthony Poggo, the newly appointed secretary-general of the Anglican Communion (News, 14 June), preached from the parable of the Good Samaritan, noting how Jesus did not praise either the priest or the Levite in the story, but the foreign outsider.

" 'Love knows no cultural, religious, tribal or national boundary,' Bishop Poggo said, urging those listening to remember the suffering of those in Ukraine, the Congo, and elsewhere. His homeland of South Sudan had seen three rounds of displacement thanks to conflict, he said — he and his family had been among the millions who sought refuge in neighbouring Uganda, their own good Samaritan."

Pride Eucharist        Source: Twitter
In response the bishop of Monmouth, Cherry Vann, tweeted: "Just what we  affirmed and celebrated at Abergavenny Pride". 

That is  a distortion of the truth and an insult to those referred to by Bishop Poggo who are suffering and dying for their faith. 

Abergavenny Pride did not celebrate philia or agape. What the Pride movement celebrates is eros.

All the worse because the majority of Anglicans, particularly in Africa have no truck with the twisted thinking of bishops of the Church in Wales and other Western provinces in which the bible is being interpreted to mean not what has been understood over centuries but to convey a message supportive of a non-biblical lifestyle. 

Both in same sex relationships, the bishop recently rewarded the vicar with a canonry. Few can have done more to help queer the Church in Wales.

They have no shame. Having highjacked the Church the Holy Eucharist is now being used to promote the gay pride movement in what has become a secularised institution, drawing-in innocent children. Indoctrination has become widespread.

They talk about love but no love is shown for faithful Anglicans left with no sacramental and pastoral oversight following the untimely death in 2017 of Bishop David Thomas RIP. Just unsubstantiated accusations of homophobia against anyone who refuses to become complicit by going along with the new order, accepting what the majority of Anglicans know to be wrong based on biblical truths.  

When Bishop David Thomas died in 2017 the best part of the Church in Wales died with him. 

66 comments:

  1. Stomach churning.
    Not only have the deviants taken over they're busy spreading their twisted lifestyles to the young and impressionable.
    There is no longer any sin and you can all do whatever you like.
    But where are the parents?
    The children need bread but the Cult in Wales is giving them a stone.

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  2. Did they seek, and have they obtained, permission to publish that image from the parents/guardians of that young lad?

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  3. Menai Straight20 July 2022 at 16:20

    Love is not being affirmed, just fetishes kinks and deviances.
    How long before they produce an authorised form of service for blessing a relationship with vacuum cleaners called Henry?

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    1. https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/naughty-vicar-fined-after-caught-27485286

      Is this the matter to which you refer?
      🀣

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    2. Menai Straight22 July 2022 at 17:01

      It is.
      I wonder if the "Baptist Trainfan" is acquainted with that particular star of the show?

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  4. The sermon sounds like typical revisionism aimed at bringing in an LGBTQrs angle. As I quoted 10 days ago on my blog,

    "whilst the allegorical reading has major problems, it has at least noted one thing of importance: it is the Samaritan who is taking the part of Jesus in the story. We might want, then, to reflect further and understand theologically that, beaten and bruised as we have been by sin, it is Jesus who has refused to pass by on the other side, but who has brought us help and healing by paying the price that was needed for us.

    This is not to rob the story (pun not intended!) of its moral force—but it shifts the register. We do not help others because we ‘ought’ to, but because we have received for ourselves from Jesus the life-changing compassion which we then share with those around us, as part of sharing the love of God in word and deed."

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  5. J Edgar Hoover would turn in his grave Menai Straight!!!

    Old Bill

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    1. Turn?
      He's spinning like a tumbler dryer!
      🀣

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    2. Should have used a Dyson.
      Doesn't lose suction when the bag needs changing! 🀣🀣🀣

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  6. Do those fools REALLY think they're preaching the gospel and doing God's will?
    Quite apart from the BS, they look more like the Druids to be found at the National Eisteddfod!
    Who has won the Chair this year?

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    1. By convincing others they can feel better themselves, because underneath it all they are disturbed by their sexuality and jealous and resentful of the heterosexual great majority. It is simple psychology.
      That they should have exploited the Church for their own ends is reprehensible.

      LW

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    2. Even more reprehensible is that the Church has turned over and just let them.

      Bewildered

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  7. I didn't think it would be long before this picture appeared on this site. So very predictable. AB you have an obsession with this issue. You give it prominence on your blog whenever you can. It's no longer an issue for the majority of people in this country - indeed, marriage is now equal in the secular world. You really do need to get over this once and for all.

    TP

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    1. This dyslexic believes in Dog20 July 2022 at 20:53

      The fact is that Cherry the Lesbian published it on Twitter first, giving it prominence and demonstrating her own obsession with the issue before AB responded.
      You must really try much harder to get your facts straight.
      But is "straight" even in your vocabulary?

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    2. What you fail to grasp TP is that the Church in these lands is a laughing stock. On the website of a national newspaper this very day, more than 200 comments decried the Church of England's policy of turning a blind eye to sexual practice and ethics. Many people do not understand how the Church can have a Bible that clearly forbids gay sex, yet this country has churches falling over themselves to offer blessings on gay marriages.
      The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith in the Vatican issued a statement when the German Catholic Bishops' Conference asked if it were possible to offer German Catholics in gay marriages a blessing. The answer was unequivocal. Homosexuality is a sin, and God does not bless sin.
      In our baptism, we promise to "fight against sin, the world, and the devil", which as I see it, is all that AB is doing in his own way. The Cult in Wales has jumped into bed with the world. Sin no longer exists, and as for the devil, he is just allowed to run amok. The plankers are more concerned with the gay agenda and their Pride eucharists than ever they are with defeating sin, the world, and the devil. The good news is that the Cult has got 8 years left on current forecasts, and at that point, the good Lord will remove the lampstand from its place.
      Seymour

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    3. If "it's no longer an issue for the majority of people in this country" then why do the BBC luvvies along with the Cult in Wales and the Church of England constantly bang on about it and ceaselessly push the LGBTQIA+ alphabet agenda?
      The reality is, as usual, that the vast silent majority of the population don't give a damn about the homosexual /trans lobby or the churches.
      They have far more important things to worry about.

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    4. Here's the latest example of the BBC agenda being promoted by the misuse of TV licence payers' money.

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-62250849

      The talk of their so-called 'core values' sickens me.

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    5. The other agenda being pushed endlessly by the BBC is women's sport, soccer in particular at the moment, constantly spouting fluff and guff about breaking records for crowd attendances etc.
      With everything else going on in the world I fail to understand why such nonsense is even news, much less worthy of the headlines.

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    6. TP, you live in the secular world a world where anything goes but we Bible believing Christians have the Holy Spirit and it is our duty to rebuke evil and especially the evil that has permeated our church with the full authority of God.

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    7. The BBC are pushing their favourite agenda once more with Tom Daley playing the victim and rainbow flags to flown at every possible opportunity.
      The Church, schools and sport are all fair game for queering.

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/commonwealth-games/62326030

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  8. So much for a "Pride Eucharist".
    All I see from the photographs is an empty Church.
    If the picture paints a thousand words then it says it all. Perfectly.

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    1. Well spotted Sister.
      But isn't the term 'Pride Eucharist' is an oxymoron?
      Pride is one of the seven deadly sins and we were clearly instructed by the main man himself that the Eucharist was to take place ' in remembrance of me'.
      How and when did that simple instruction become twisted into 'Do this in celebration of all things homosexual'?

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  9. And doesn't it demonstrate a rather sick message about her two-fingers apathy to the mass of 'straight', traditionalists of the Church-in-Wales that Bishop Vann and her lesbo/homo ilk chose Abergavenny's St. Mary's Priory Church to wave their banners and flaunt their weird interpretations of what Christ intended for Christendom ... the very church where Bishop David Thomas's Requiem Mass was celebrated only a few years ago. Given the chance they'd have danced on his grave too ...!

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    1. Menai Straight21 July 2022 at 14:29

      Or much, much worse?

      Desecrating the altar and sanctuary goes unpunished.

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    2. Menai Straight22 July 2022 at 13:23

      Quite the opposite AdC.
      It makes perfect sense.
      Cherry wants to plant her queer church seedlings in the Parishes where she perceives the most resistance will exist.
      Wipe out or evict the traditionalists from their strongholds and the rest will be a pushover.
      Satan is dancing a jig to Cherry's tune.

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  10. The August edition of Hornby Magazine announces the imminent arrival of an oo model of the Avanti West Coast PRIDE train. Soon little boys and girls may dream not just of being an engine driver but of owning a nine-coach high speed train decked out in the rainbow colours. Perhaps Cherry could install a track in St Woolos so that the Sunday School (do they still have one?) can thrill to watch it eternally chasing its own a**se - or should that be tail?

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    1. I had to book a Transpenine train from Glasgow to Lancs to avoid the chance of having to get on it; did see it pass through Birmingham. Hopefully hornby will find that they have a few left over

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  11. Perhaps the under-employed archbishoprick Andy might like to go and bless it. I know as a fact that the original Hornby family (I was big chum of inheritor Tony Hornby-Mason) were staunch Anglo-catholic and as straight as a rail-track. They'd have been appalled!

    Old Bill

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    1. How long before there will be a gay Action Man toy?
      Or a trans Action Man with removable/interchangeable breasts and genitalia and a wardrobe full of wigs, high heels, handbags and ball gowns.

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    2. Surely Old Bill, Andy Pandy would have to send his deputy. Something of major importance might happen in Bangor in his absence. The press might want his expert theological opinion on some great issue of the day. The First Minister might want his advice. The cathedral might need a bit more queering.
      Seymour

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  12. These people should be nowhere near Church leadership, and indeed wouldn't have been in the past. How much lower can they go in chasing relevance and popularity (and gaining neither), and how condescending of them, damaging posterity and tradition by following their private LGBT desires. Who now do they represent?

    LW

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    1. Those people should be nowhere near children, never mind Church!

      Bewildered

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  13. The albs in the picture seem to have been put through a blue rinse. Is this to include the Tories whom Jojo would like to excommunicate?

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  14. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/62269689
    Some more good news and common sense.

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  15. Baptist Trainfan23 July 2022 at 12:14

    Just come across this: http://www.unadulteratedlove.net/blog/2022/7/22/general-synod-chaplain-resigns-under-homophobic-pressure

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    1. Playing the victim card again.
      All because someone with a different point of view dares express their opinion aloud and disturbs their fake claims of inclusiveness.
      Doesn't Synod provide safe spaces for the pathetic triggered little daahlings?

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    2. Menai Straight23 July 2022 at 16:03

      Here should be your headline from Synod.
      https://www.churchtimes.co.uk/articles/2022/29-july/news/world/draft-lambeth-conference-call-threatens-to-reignite-1998-row-over-homosexuality
      The alphabet people want to mimic Sturgeon and her squalid attempts at IndyRef2.

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    3. You only have to read the comments here to see that there is no need to play at being the victim. The way LGBT people are discussed and debated here attempts to rob them of any dignity. So I very much admire those in the above picture who hold their heads with unashamed dignity amid the shameful attitudes that still appear to surround them in the church. That’s the true meaning of pride - holding one’s head high when faced with the sinfulness of those who would dare shame and diminish your identity as a child of God; there’s a strength in those who are able to do that.

      TruePride

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    4. I see no dignity, merely publicity-seeking posturing and posing for the camera.
      There's nothing and nobody surrounding them.
      The church is quite empty as their photograph proves.
      They shame and diminish themselves (except they're shameless) and the true meaning of "Pride" is holding their own heads high, refusing to face their own sinfulness before God in his own house.

      Instead of taking such pride in their flaunted "Pride", a little humility wouldn't go amiss before the proverbial fall occurs.

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    5. You're wrong Enoch - it's a shame you don't see it. Blinded by your prejudice and, worse still, you call on God to defend you in that injustice. That's called the sin against the Holy Spirit.

      I'm done with this site once and for all - it's evil.

      TruePride

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    6. πŸ‘‹ πŸ‘‹ πŸ‘‹

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    7. This dyslexic believes in Dog26 July 2022 at 11:14

      Result!
      The plankers next please.

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    8. Menai Straight26 July 2022 at 19:15

      Best news this month, certainly no loss TrulyPerverse.

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    9. Faith Militant26 July 2022 at 22:28

      There is more joy in heaven over one repentant sinner...... πŸ˜‚

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  16. Justin Welby says he wants to remain at Lambeth/Canterbury until he's 70 thus making him the longest serving Primate for 50+ years because he's enjoying the 'job' while at the same time recognising that growing numbers of delegates from overseas Anglican (including Commonwealth) countries are snubbing the General Synod due to the same-sex marriage positions of Wales, Scotland, etc. Is he mad or just deaf? As for the chaplain to the Synod Enoch: why give them special facilities. Question is: who appoints these weaklings in the first place? Yep: the same loopy Synod. I'm amazed that the Press/Media still gives this outdated amateur Rep any publicity. The audience isn't clapping.

    Ad Clerum

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    1. Sarcasm friend, sarcasm.

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    2. @Ad Clerum
      With any luck Sam Margrave's letter will see off Welby by the end of the month.
      Welby has been caught out lying so many times his departure is long overdue.

      Bewildered

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  17. I think we need to be careful about demonising the Affirming wing of the church. Many, if not most, are sincere in their belief that Christianity can accommodate same-sex relationships. Many are lovely people and are committed to their significant others in a way that we'd describe as fidelity if we were talking about a traditional Christian marriage.

    However, that being said - if we wan't an Apostolic faith that is true to their inspired teaching, we have to conclude they are sincerely wrong. There is no argument that the Apostles would have countenanced same-sex relationships in the early church. To argue that they would if they have been alive today is moot - they weren't. In obedience to Christ they delivered a 'faith once delivered to the saints', this cannot change. There can be novel interpretations that have a cogent bias in scripture but the case for SSM is a million miles away from passing first muster. I'm sorry, really I am, but my conscience cannot accept the generalisations used to argue for it. Also the argument that goes, 'he's a really great priest and he's gay, therefore God must be okay with it' is flawed since, 'for the gifts and the callings of God are without repentance' (Romans 11:29). Gifts demonstrated are not synonymous with God's blessing or approval. They are not the same thing. Article 26 speaks of the 'Unworthiness of Ministers' that hinders not the blessing of the sacrament.

    What we need to do is be courageous, kind yet intellectually robust in our arguments for they are on our side. Just throwing our arms up in the air in disgust isn't going to help. Many errors have come in throughout church history and Christians struggled to rectify them over time. I am not yet ready to give up or stop talking to those who disagree with me even if they unfairly characterise me as a homophobe simply for believing what Christians and Anglicans have always been taught to believe.

    WHAMAB (WHite and Middle-Aged, Bald)


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    1. Faith Militant24 July 2022 at 10:53

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    2. Menai Straight24 July 2022 at 11:36

      Well said Sir/Madam.
      It's not as if there aren't dozens of empty church buildings around the place being sold off cheap is it?
      Might well prevent some of them being converted into mosques too.
      Win win.

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    3. WHAMAB, I couldn't agree more. What amazes me is the amount of people who push SSM, and still claim that they are Catholic. True Catholicism is what all Christians, at all times, and in all places, have believed. As you have indicated, the apostles most certainly did not believe this, and nor would their converts. The subsequent epochs of the Christian Church have not believed it. It is yet another fallacy that someone can be Catholic in their thinking and practice, whilst behaving and promoting what their forebears never believed.
      Seymour

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    4. Faith Militant28 July 2022 at 15:25

      @Whamab
      Sincerity is not the issue, surely?
      The Greeks sincerely believed their Gods lived on Mount Olympus, the Romans sincerely believed in their Pantheon and the Norsemen sincerely believed in Valhalla.
      As far as I am concerned, the alphabet people can sincerely believe in white unicorns that sh*t pink candyfloss under a rainbow every morning.
      But I sincerely object to them queering the Church whilst subjecting traditionalists to false allegations of a variety of imagined and manufactured phobias if and when anyone speaks out against their lifestyle choices.

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  18. "what the majority of Anglicans know to be wrong based on biblical truths" In fact what everyone knows, based on what the bible says. There is no debate on what the bible says. Catholics, Anglicans, Muslims, atheists, all agree on what the bible says. It just the response that differs. Faithful Christians stick to biblical principles. Atheists masquerading as priests (i.e. CiW leaders) ignore the bible when it suits their sinful agenda.

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  19. Menai Straight28 July 2022 at 08:40

    J.K. Rowling couldn't have made this one up.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-62294030

    Black lesbian barrister takes gay charity Stonewall to a Tribunal for discrimination over her belief that biological sex cannot be changed and wins £22k

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    1. Delicious irony28 July 2022 at 09:59

      The Trans issue has the militant liberals, feminists and lesbians all at each others throats over their perceived "rights".

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    2. From today's Daily Telegraph
      https://www.telegraph.co.uk/columnists/2022/07/27/why-do-left-want-little-children-taught-drag-queens/

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  20. The picture looks more like affirming victorian night-attire.

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  21. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-62335665
    The gender bending transgender clinic needs to be "transformed"!

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  22. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/commonwealth-games/62341228
    Tom and the rainbow flag wavers get the full BBC treatment but at least the flag wavers weren't Drag Queens.

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  23. Menai Straight29 July 2022 at 19:05

    Hurrah and Alleluia.
    A victory at last for common sense
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/62349297
    All this fuss, expense and nonsense over six, yes just six, individuals.

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  24. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/07/29/children-referred-puberty-blockers-just-one-consultation-tavistock/
    The Tavistock child abuse clinic details are slowly getting to see the light of day.
    The damage done to these poor children by the right-on woke lefty social-engineering luvvies fills me with dismay. Let the lawsuits begin.

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  25. World Triathlon fudge the issue rather than following the lead of British Triathlon.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/triathlon/62418165
    Zebedee

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  26. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-62425720

    Promiscuity trumps abstinence.

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  27. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-62450428
    Brighton Pride making an exhibition of themselves once more.

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  28. The Ugandans have got the right idea.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-62453344
    Smug today, Pride tomorrow.

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