Friday 19 January 2024

Beyond a joke

The Bishop of Bangor, Andy John, at  his Enthronement as Archbishop of Wales                            Source: Church in Wales

This photograph was published in Disaster looms closer after the bishop of Bangor, Andy John, was enthroned as archbishop of Wales in 2022. The picture was taken down from the Church in Wales web site after the archbishop was criticised as being disrespectful.

The Church in Wales had already become a joke, so much so that Anglican commentators such as Anglican Unscripted rarely mention it and its many 'firsts'.

The latest 'first' for the Church in Wales is History is made as Church appoints its youngest ever bishop. Emphasising his same sex relationship we are told that in his spare time, 'David enjoys spending time with his fiancé, Marc Penny, and his cat, Gordon'. Not a 'first'. That record goes to the bishop of Monmouth who lives with her same sex partner.

It was the new bishop who was responsible for first publishing the photograph used in Caption corner 22 December 2023 in his X (formerly Twitter) account which I see has also been taken down. No doubt another regret in hindsight.

Meanwhile the Dean of Llandaff who lives with his partner, Jim, is reportedly on sick leave while facing allegations of serious misconduct.

Not even the Llandaffchester Chronicles could have made this up. The Church in Wales is beyond a joke.

38 comments:

  1. What made me laugh was the chocolate teapot's words "These are exciting times for the Church in Wales." It doesn't take a lot to get him excited, that's all I can say. Most people in the Cult in Wales, who are being honest, have come to realize the "end is nigh".
    Seymour

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    1. The Cult in Wales has any fools (sorry, people) left?
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  2. Much - to much - could be added to your newest 'thread' AB and its pleasing that the blogsite reminds us all about just how ridiculous our 'Church in Wales' has been allowed to become under Andrew John. David Morris is from all accounts a nice enough chap, better equipped to be a priest than either his dean or bishop and I make no further comment save to wish him well.
    However, as the CinW Press Office and secretariat to the Archbishop are so keen towards 'transparency' in pumping out personal details of Morris and Peer etc., down to their male partners and names of cats, when might they also break rank and detail the reason why, last year, the one person in the Diocese of Bangor deserving of rank of Assistant Bishop, the Ven Andrew Jones, archdeacon of Meirioneth, is still shrouded in absolute secrecy. There is an absolute 'Stalin-like' forbidding for anyone to know. Even, apparently, Ven Jones has been forbidden from speaking on his own behalf.
    All we know is that he was very, very, very, unhappy with some church trusts and accounts he was involved in as 'trustee' and so quit. Then after a loud meeting with Andy+Bangor he quit as archdeacon, quit as parish priest, and handed in their keys of his Parsonage ... with all in the know sworn not to mention his name again. Reminiscent of Barry Morgan's Kim Jung Un style of dictatorship.
    Andrew Jones, popular, priestly and damn'd sight brain-smarter than his bishop would have made the idea Bishop of Bangor even in assistant role.
    Anyone got updates to share perhaps ... ? Was he, like the Very Rev Susan Jones and others of the Andy-era diocese, simply paid off to save the idiot bishop from further ridicule.

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    1. Tread Caerphilly

      I've also been wondering about the mysterious disappearing Andrew Jones – apparently exiled and airbrushed out like so many others. Good to see one of the best of the exiles is now a Bishop in southern England, so there is life after the badlands of Bangor Diocese. If anybody knows more about Andrew Jones, do tell.

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  3. There is an old saying: A church without religious communities is a church with its right arm paralysed. There is just one (small and ageing) female religious community on the edge of the diocese of Monmouth; no vowed male religious have been based in the Province since SSF abandoned their house in Llandudno many years ago (and CR left Cardiff many years before that). Cathedrals like Bangor might be rescued from their decline into absurdity if their canons were retired and the ancient tradition of a monastic chapter were revived, restoring them as places of perpetual prayer and praise. (As if!)

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  4. On subject of Picture Awards of which ++Andy and his buddies are prime posers, there used to be umpteen fiercely competed for international events. The International Press Photographer of the Year (Nikon); Royal Photographer of the Year (sponsored by Martini), Sports Photographer of the Year (Olympus), the Fuji Portrait Award etc. Minolta cameras sponsored one for landscape photographers I seem to recall.
    With Poser-Andy focussed on any camera lens pointing at his gormless grin, perhaps a new photographic Trophy: 'Clergy Buffoonery Award' and who best to sponsor it ... ? 'Cannon' of course!!!!'

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  6. Just seen in Bangor Craigslist: ‘For sale, job lot of Lurex Bishop’s dressing up clothes. Purchased in anticipation. Never used, apart from trying on at home. Now not needed.’

    I wonder who is having a post-thwarting clear out of the Tat Cupboard??! 😂😂

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  7. Another great theological mind joins The Bunch (by invitation only). A 'Graduate' of the Janet and John Skool of Feeologee, Llandaff . How on earth has the CiW come to this????

    Sir Omicron Pi.

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  8. @ Sir Omicron Pi

    Sir. As one once deployed in the breakdowns of coded words and messages of Northern Ireland terrorists (and please Zebedee don't hark back to Old Bill = Policeman which I was not), I'm intrigued by your pseudonym which would be the 15th and 16th letters of the Greek alphabet and the prefixing of Sir which is prefix also of the Greek's named group of Sirus night stars (as in Canis Majoris). Many of Ancient Briton's contributor pseudonyms are cleverly created, but yours is intriguing. Any clues ...?

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    1. Dear Bill. Barchester. Cathedral was never a match for the 'goings on' at Llandaff Cathedral.

      Best,
      Omicron

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  9. @ Old Bill
    Answer your phone 'Bill' I could have helped you! For Greek alphabet letters 15 and 16 or O and P and to crack your curiosity, try the 1516 Novum Instrumentum Omne Latin to Greek translation of the New Testament by Desiderius Erasmus. Perhaps like the new Bishop of Bangor, Erasmus was also a Knight Commander of the Order of St John and thus 'Sir'???? I'm still trying to figure out if TP of ancient is the same as un-Ruthy of modern !!!!

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  10. Another “Male, Pale & Stale” appointment for the CinW.
    What a shame that ++Andy missed the opportunity to appoint a strong woman to the role.
    We also still have no Bishop from an ethnic minority in our Province - a shameful fact for the CinW in 2024.

    True CinW Feminist

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    1. Why is stale, male and pale not racist and sexist? I thought race and gender didn't matter in this woke world? Danny Jones

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    2. 93.8% of the Welsh population identified as 'white' in the 2021 Census. The next highest was Asian, with 2.9%.

      Were one of the seven Welsh Bishops from a UKME background, that minority would be vastly overrepresented, as would the UKME population of Wales generally.

      Thomist

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    3. Welsh IS an ethnic minority in the UK you feminist prat.

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    4. DodoJo, Caiaphas, Offa's trench, typhoid Mary.
      All disasters.
      Car crash Cathy, cyanide Sue, Janet "nine weeks" Henderson, Peggy "the taxman will never know" Pilate and the coven.
      All disasters.
      The last thing the cult in Wales needs is more feminazis.

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    5. With less than 10,000 visiting cult in Wales buildings on Sundays, it needs less Bishops not more.

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  11. David has been dressing like a Roman Catholic bishop since first appearing in Bangor. I suspect he'll have to up his game and appear as a cardinal now.

    Too much dressing up, drinking and foolery in that part of the world for my liking. What must the down to earth people of Bangor make of it all?

    Rhydderch

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    1. He’ll have to be careful if he does. I believe out-tatting the Cardinal Archprat of St Deniol’s incurs a penalty of handbags at dawn…

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  12. https://youtu.be/badCIitReJo?si=REDX47F2HA0oDott

    Slippery Dick the sherry gets a brief dishonourable mention from George and Kevin, episode 838 at 36:30.
    What goes around comes around.

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  13. This is scarily accurate: https://cyber-coenobites.blogspot.com/2024/01/church-vacancy-faciliation-facilitator.html?fbclid=IwAR2FWP-AFJ0TFWiuLZtorHH64YRJBNSULvp7mql5Cds7vuFhpphTo5nCIPI

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    1. Reminiscent of at least one thread from the Llandaffchester Chronicles.
      Anyone else remember Svepee?
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    2. Will it be returning for a special edition to celebrate “Dickie’s Disco” taking place?

      Y Llan

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  14. The poses in the image tell the real story: "Up yours, ye orthodox."

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  15. This young chap will fit in well with the complete pantomime Bangor Cathedral has become, with more performing monkey than an episode of Britain's got Talent. Watching their Sunday broadcasts is very much on the same shelf as Saturday night viewing. I notice, however, Ancient Briton, that you have not been as critical of this guy as you could have been. Perhaps you are good friends behind the scenes? Young Morris has played a clever game keeping his toe in with the orthodox, parading around at Walsingham as if he was one. It has served him well. Shame there's not much going for him underneath all that lace and tat. Still, it will be a while before the decline of the Cult in Wales will affect his gin cabinet. He will enjoy the prancing about. He was made for it.

    GladI'mOut!

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    1. Morris the Mincer.
      As known by some.

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  16. If you have time to wait, a fast buck or two can be made by placing an early Bookies Bet on Canon David Morris being enthroned Archbishop of Wales. Once the turnip ++John eventually retires aged 70, then by my arithmetic and the procedure which has now slipped into C-in-W custom or 'lore', Mary Stallard will have a couple of years in post as all others of Wales's 'bench' pecking-order will by then be over 70, it will fall on young David to finish off what might be left of the C-in-W. Either that, or sell the C-in-W franchise to Rome.

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  17. Ad Clerum: Why would "Rome" even want to entertain this ship of fools? "All yours.."!

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    2. Just imagine being related to those cretins!

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  18. Ah, Martin. Fair question, but assuming a give-away token price of £1, then think of the balance sheet to the Vatican Bank (formerly Banco Ambrossiano of former P-6 Masonic Lodge Roberto Calvi's running). Cellars full of gin, sherry and wine, warehouses full of gold-embroidered vestments, millions of pounds worth of empty Vicarages and a massive property portfolio (Bangor alone), and the book rights to the Ven. Andrew Jones's 'Secret Diaries' (Mysteries of my Demise) Apart from that, I'm assuming that even in the Vatican they enjoy a good belly laugh ... !

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  19. Sorry Ad Clerum - but I wouldn't ever want this shower from ever, (ahem), "p**ing from INSIDE my tent!"

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  20. Odd you should mention a 'tent' in context of above ref Bangor etc. An enormous marquee has appeared overnight on sub-dean ap-Rhys's deanery lawn adjacent to the cathedral. Even by his standards its too big to be an extension to his wardrobe.

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    1. Not an Eco tent but an Ego tent?

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  21. The Bangor circus tent on the Dean's Lawn explained: While the Bargain Booze HGV Lorry has yet to arrive, its for hosting the post-Consecration shindig of the Bishop of St David's on Saturday (27th). Evidently charabangs carrying hoards and hoards of St David's day-trippers are expected although noting Martin B's comments above, pissing in the tent might have to suffice as no Portaloo WC's seem to have been thought of.
    What a jolly event it will be. Another chance for dressing up and general photo-buffoonery.

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    1. Try hordes and hordes unless you're intending hoarding them all away. 😂
      Bewildered

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    2. In St. Davids, one hires Charabancs.

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