Again, Anna Morrell might rue the day that cameras were invented ... another one she'll probably try and take down from public/social media sight although the damage is already done. In Bangor the three of them have become a laughing stock, At least the peculiar Mayor had the decency to quit.
No voting took place, Mr/Miss/Ms/...... Hercun was co-opted on to the city council as an advisor on LGTBQ..... matters; he subsequently, legally it is claimed, became Mayor.
Quite apart from the reality that Welby has no means of intervening, he's just as bad as the chocolate teapot so there will be precisely zero help from that direction.
Yes, it would be comforting to think that Justin Welby might stamp his authority over the continuing, regular and worsening antics of Wales's archbishop, but as Cymru'r Groes rightly point out, he has no remit for intervention. Sadder, however, is that (from my understanding) the vast majority of honest, decent and hard-working clergy (straight and queer) trying to hold their parishes together are in same despair as the rest of us; but astonishingly and pathetically won't muster either individually or collectively to vent their views. Many I know openly ridicule Andrew John and his dressing-up-box pretend Queenie Cardinal ... but are too sheepish to speak. Shepherds or sheep? The entire 'flock' of Wales's anglican clergy are as much to blame and, frankly, shame on them.
One has to ask, how bad would things have to be before the sheep might become sufficiently motivated to make a stand? The clergy in St. Davids managed to depose Carl Cooper for shagging randy Mandy but nothing much has happened since Richard Pain waddled off into the sunset with a fat payout. DodoJo seems to be hanging on and Caiaphas has survived multiple accusations of bullying from a wide variety of complainants. Voting with their feet has always been an option but what's the point when Welby and the Church of England are just as bad, as reported by Calvin Robinson.
That's a trifle defeatist Episkopos. What's the Point??? Well the voters in Tiverton didn't think that way last week. Labour voters swallowed their pride and combined with LibDems to unseat a whopping traditional Conservative enclave. And those in Westminister have certainly taken notice :: What's the point? We'll never know until our local parish priests, area and rural deans and even a few brave archdeacons realise that the Plebs-in-the-Pews have just about had enough. By not being honest they lose our respect for the integrity of 'priesthood'.
I agree with Episkopos. There are no Parishes any more and not much else either. The local parish priests, area and rural Deans, canons, archdeacons have been presiding over rot and decay for at least forty years, have been watching their flocks disappear week in week out and done nothing except follow meekly behind the pied piper Darth --Insidious. The few who attempted resistance (eg, Clifford Williams and the authors of the wonderfully satirical Llandaffchester Chronicles) were mistreated, sidelined and disposed of. The Cult in Wales has more in common with the Chinese Communist Party than Christianity!
Back in the early 1980s, a couple of friends of mine from university days, both priests in Llandaff diocese, made the decision to leave Anglicanism and seek reception into the Roman Catholic church. Sadly I subsequently lost touch with both of them, because the then archbishop of Cardiff apparently advised them to cut contacts with their Anglican friends lest continuing association weaken their resolution to cleave to 'the True Church'.
But I still recall the reason which one of them gave in explanation as to why he'd finally 'made the jump' to Rome. He said that he'd finally concluded that, while Welsh Anglican bishops knew all the right liturgical antics, and adopted all the right Catholic canonical togs, it was in reality all a façade, and that at bottom they didn't really believe it anyway. In short, he asserted, he'd come to see the Church in Wales as what he termed 'the joking church'.
At the time I thought that was a hard judgement which went beyond the evidence - at least such evidence as was available at the time. But when I look at this photograph which seems to have triggered AB's piece, I think my former friend was ahead of his time, and that he was prescient. And that I was the one who failed to recognize 'the writing on the wall'!
It sounds to me as though the Catholic Archbishop of Cardiff you describe was a berk or at the very least missed a golden opportunity. Perhaps he should have trusted his two new converts and encouraged them to maintain contact with their Anglican friends and charged them with converting a few more to "the one true faith". Who knows, even you might now be a RC John, had the Archbishop done so. 😂 😂
Bizarre John Ellis? Surely not. Have you not read the rewritten chapter 7 of 'A New History of the Church in Wales'? Cambridge University Press 2020. Waffler if ever there was one. Enforcer
Maybe the late Archbishop Murphy did indeed miss an opportunity, but forty years ago the times were different. The tendency then, as it had long been, was for Rome to 'closet' neophyte converts least they be lured back to their former 'schismatic' allegiance - as, indeed, another friend of mine who for a while accepted the Roman allegiance was. He ended his days back as an Anglican.
In any case it wouldn't have worked for me. I studied theology for my degree, and one of the clear lessons from my exploration of church history was that the notion of the universal jurisdiction of the bishop of Rome was, in historical terms, entirely fictional, in that the only part of the early church where that doctrine ever took any root - and even then only partial - was in the western patriarchate.
And acceptance of the bishop of Rome's universal jurisdiction is still core to being received and accepted into his communion - even if, these days, they avoid labouring the matter when they nurture converts.
@ Enforcer:
I'm afraid that I'm ignorant of the book which you mention. It's quite some time by now since I kept up to date with any sort of Anglican polemic.
The predictable, coercive behaviour, of an unpredictable bull, commonly known in law as domestic abuse, has always been a key personality feature of the Past Grand Mufti of the Church in Wales.
What domestic filth will he rake up next I wonder. Meanwhile my darlings, revision homework, 'A New History of the Church in Wales' chapter 7 (Cambridge University Press 2020 - spot the real pigs ear).Sorry Norman , no offence meant. Don't you think its getting exciting? I know, Baldwick has a cunning plan. Why don't we make it on Zoom next time. Enforcer
John Ellis, I fail to understand why you claim ignorance of the publication 'A New History of the Church in Wales' Edit Norman Doe 2020 Chapter 7 author Barry Morgan. Held 50 years following disestablishment 'The Provincial Court' held at Caernarfon (in public) 1997, under a blaze of publicity, appears to have suffered ecclesiastical dementia. Why was it removed from the first edition of chapter seven? I have previously enquired AB, concerning what appears to be a cover up which now merits a reply. For what purpose were the proceedings of the kangaroo court of 1997, along with the judgment of the Royal Courts of Justice on this 'domestic' law non judicial hearing deleted from this second 'edition '? Enforcer
I can't speak for John but I am happy to confirm my ignorance of the book for the very simple reason that I flatly refuse to put even a penny into the pocket of that bastard Barry Morgan. He's got absolutely nothing to say that I wish to hear. Your question concerning revisions to the book are best addressed to the author but there's little point in doing so because you won't get the truth from him anyway. As for the book the best use to make of it is as toilet paper.
Thank you 1662. The book (The heavily revised version chapter 7, author Barry Morgan, Cambridge University Press), 'A New History of the Church in Wales' came to my attention following the theft of private documents in 2019. In 2021, they were used in another private matter by a safeguarding officer. related to the 1997 Provincial kangaroo Court of the Church in Wales.
Concerning toilet paper 1662, permit me to recommend 'Aloe Vera' hand and face gel. Lovely smell. Enforcer
Curiously the sub dean is passing himself off as a papal chaplain, the lowest grade of monsignor. I wonder he didn't dress up as a domestic prelate or, better still, a protonotary apostolic ad instar! What an ignoramus!
That the plonker Andrew John (I can no longer give him the courtesy of title) has shoved himself into the photograph is as irrelevant as he is. Its about the only thing he's good at - posing. Concern should be for the mentality of Sion Rhys-Evans who with few if any other attributes enobling him to 'priesthood' except for some unspoken grip he has over the chief Pansy, has elevated himself to pantomime-pope. In this (and unless someone has some quiet and soft words with him/her) he's ridiculing the church and cathedral. Dressing up and impersonating something you are not is, actually, a sign of psychotic insecurity. Idi Amin used to do it, dressing up as a British Field Marshal and when that failed, as a Scottish Clan Chief replete with sporran and Durch ... history is full of them. All failures. They must surely realise that they're being laughed at? What Sion's family and friends in Anglesey make of him - ridicule probably - is anyone's guess but really, for the sake of what's left of the Diocese of Bangor some friend ought to let him know that he's leaving a bad smell in his wake. But of course, as others have noted, there are no clergy who have the guts to open their mouths. 'O Lord, open thou our lips ....' ? You go first vicar!!!
Well noted Teilo but I doubt former Methodist (failed) ap-Rhys would know a protonotary from a bottle of plonk! But lest he does and can match his delusions of grandeur to his knowledge of Latin then: Quos Deus vult perdere prius dementat. The poor half-wit is already half way there!!!
You can see straight away why those with responsibility for discerning a vocation to the ordained ministry were emphatic in their view that Rhys Evans should never have trained for ordination. That Andy Crap was willing to overturn that decision, despite receiving one of the worst ever reports on a candidate sent for selection, tells you everything you might want to know about the quality of archiepiscopal leadership in this Province.
Enough is enough! My membership of the C in W has been hanging by a thread for some time in the hope that, somehow, it would re-establish its traditional teachings. This hope has been totally destroyed by the antics of our current archbishop who is proving himself to be a huge blot on the ecclesiastical landscape. His inclusion in recent puerile, childish and thoroughly embarrassing photographs is unworthy of his office,about which he obviously has no understanding. So it's time to go and leave this faux archbishop to complete the demise of the church of which he is supposed to be leader. Nemesis
Welcome indeed, Nemesis. What took you so long? For their sakes, here's hoping you're bringing lots of family and friends along with you. All help to collapse the Cult in Wales received gratefully.
Good for you. You're not the first and you certainly won't be the last. Sunday regulars must be well below 15,000 by now and the RB are desperate to maintain the cover up.
I have it on good authority that the Llandaff Parish 9 service - once the gold standard - has now become little more than a school assembly, devoid of its former excellent choir. LW
The Llandaff Cathedral Parish Choir reached its zenith during Harry Joyce's tenure, went badly downhill after that until Morley Lewis took it on and rebuilt it. Unfortunately, the Choir never recovered from Morley's premature departure thanks to the duo of Bonaparte and Moorhouse. Another disgraceful example of a hard working and faithful servant used, abused and disposed of by the Cult in Wales.
I'm grateful for these reassuring comments. My decision didn't come without considerable anguish but it was the only course available to me in view of what has become a disaster for the Church to which I have previously been proud to belong. I have certainly stopped my giving and I've diverted the funds to charity where they will do much more good. I'm happy to report that several friends are also on the point of taking similar action as they can no longer tolerate what's happening in the current C in W. Nemesis
Very few bother attending the Sunday morning Cathedral service in Llandaff any more and the vast majority of those at the Parish service are only there because they need to be to get their kids into Llandaff City Junior school or the Bishop of Llandaff High school. Once the kids are in the High school both the kids and parents usually stop attending.
Sensible curtailing of the communion chalice during the COVID crisis is now, thankfully, behind us. But given today's London Public Health Executive renewed warnings over Gay Pride, LGBTQ+ parades and unnecessary skin-touch contact with (active) homosexuals (of which there are above average numbers per capita as C-in-W 'priests') should we in the Diocese of Bangor and those cathedral communicants in Bangor particularly check with Ecclesiastical Insurance before glad-handing certain clergy ... or accepting the Wafer from their fingers??? Monkeypox appears to be rife and in UK higher now than any other European country after its jump from central and west Africa. Health warnings regarding skin-sweat touch are serious. Gay Rights paraders are now being urged to stay at home. Instead of incense being wafted around the Altar perhaps Dettol spray or even DDT ... or better still, LGBTQ+ celebrating priests should take the Public Health medical officers' advise ... and stay at home until Monkeypox is wiped out. (Before you comment TP: I have nothing against monkeys...!)
I see we've crossed the boundary from generic homophobia to cartoonish 1980s-style gay panic, but I suspect that's because the 1980s was the last time most of you understood the world...
Also, I'm not sure what you're doing when you go up for communion, but the last time I checked, catching Monkeypox require some sort of significant physical contact (i.e more than a single touch of hands) even with the potential for transmission through sweat!
Searching for an address, I've just been askede by Royal Mail if I would like to celebrate a landmark in British history by buying Pride Stamps, featuring gay and lesbian themes surmounted by the Queen's head! Do you imagine they asked permission of the Supreme Governor of the Church of England?
Even "Eastenders" is to be used by Auntie to promote the LGBTQIA cause. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-62010839 All designed to corrupt and influence more and more young people into accepting flagrant exhibitionism as "normal", for the sake of less than 2% of the general population.
Have any of you heard the one about the young woman who jokes about being a "female disabled lesbian who's also a feminist and Christian" and was "worried about finding her community"? Well you have now. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/disability-62011918 'Dad had to carry me up the stairs to the LGBT party' She feels discriminated against by the LGBT brigade no less! And does anyone else have even the faintest idea what intersectionality is or means?
Sad to say Teilo, that yes, HM The Queen would have approved the final design 'essay' of the stamps; they having first gone through process of Royal Mail (now a listed public company of course) approval, then the Stamp Advisory Committee then on to HM's desk. Once she gives consent, printing can begin. Unfortunately, as we now know, she could not have sought the advise of Archbishop Postman Pat in Bangor as he's 'stamped' his mark on Royal Rubuff by snubbing her. Perhaps sub-dean Rhys might have had some comment to say about the 'licking' quality as he seems expert in that brown-nose backside department. But yes: HM approval is necessary.
The deviant exhibitionists are out in force today, the BBC providing them with maximum exposure while Sadiq Khan praises the Metropolitan police for being "sensitive" to the feelings of the LGBTQIA communities. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-62020418 How many churches will they be calling in to visit on their route to book their gay blessings and gay weddings while draping their rainbows everywhere?
I've been to a 50th anniversary of priesting in the diocese of Gloucester, today. Conversation overheard. How lovely to see so many priests in cassocks, today. Yes, in the Diocese of Llandaff, we only get pretty frocks, earrings and pink cardies! Unison Off.
Korben the shallow callow youth hits the BBC headlines once more. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-62080994 The cult of celebrity and the queer agenda roll on.
Presumably, AB, you've seen this little gem in last Friday's Church Times. Other contributors may have some insights and observations on the detail in job description.
Sick.
ReplyDeleteSicker.
Sickest.
Again, Anna Morrell might rue the day that cameras were invented ... another one she'll probably try and take down from public/social media sight although the damage is already done. In Bangor the three of them have become a laughing stock, At least the peculiar Mayor had the decency to quit.
ReplyDeleteHow did the exhibitionist become "Mayor" in the first place? Who on earth would vote for that parody?
DeleteNo voting took place, Mr/Miss/Ms/...... Hercun was co-opted on to the city council as an advisor on LGTBQ..... matters; he subsequently, legally it is claimed, became Mayor.
DeleteHe?
DeleteAmbiguity personified.
The Archbishop with his new best friends forever after the evangelical alliance throw him out.
ReplyDeleteand the Christian Motorcycle Association tore up his application form
DeleteIs the chocolate teapot still using stabilisers? 😌 🤔
Delete🤣🤣
And the final group processing in this year's Pride Carnival: Bangorsexuals.
ReplyDeleteMenai Bridger
Battyboys Brigade Bangor Branch.
Delete'Shut that door'.
DeleteThe Bangor chapter of Guild of Restorers of Pride in the Episcopacy in Wales (aka GROPE Cymru.
DeleteIs Chris Pincher MP a member?
DeleteThe finalists in the Pride Festival "Most Out There Costume" contest.
ReplyDeleteToilet brush.
ReplyDeleteToilet plunger.
Toilet attendant.
Surely the Archbishop of Canterbury must intervene in the face of this blatant and arrogant Scandal and Offence ?
ReplyDeleteQuite apart from the reality that Welby has no means of intervening, he's just as bad as the chocolate teapot so there will be precisely zero help from that direction.
DeleteDidn't Randy Pandy send along his assistant Bishopette to represent him at such a nationally important and high profile event?
ReplyDeleteYes, it would be comforting to think that Justin Welby might stamp his authority over the continuing, regular and worsening antics of Wales's archbishop, but as Cymru'r Groes rightly point out, he has no remit for intervention. Sadder, however, is that (from my understanding) the vast majority of honest, decent and hard-working clergy (straight and queer) trying to hold their parishes together are in same despair as the rest of us; but astonishingly and pathetically won't muster either individually or collectively to vent their views. Many I know openly ridicule Andrew John and his dressing-up-box pretend Queenie Cardinal ... but are too sheepish to speak. Shepherds or sheep? The entire 'flock' of Wales's anglican clergy are as much to blame and, frankly, shame on them.
ReplyDeleteOne has to ask, how bad would things have to be before the sheep might become sufficiently motivated to make a stand?
DeleteThe clergy in St. Davids managed to depose Carl Cooper for shagging randy Mandy but nothing much has happened since Richard Pain waddled off into the sunset with a fat payout.
DodoJo seems to be hanging on and Caiaphas has survived multiple accusations of bullying from a wide variety of complainants.
Voting with their feet has always been an option but what's the point when Welby and the Church of England are just as bad, as reported by Calvin Robinson.
That's a trifle defeatist Episkopos. What's the Point??? Well the voters in Tiverton didn't think that way last week. Labour voters swallowed their pride and combined with LibDems to unseat a whopping traditional Conservative enclave. And those in Westminister have certainly taken notice :: What's the point? We'll never know until our local parish priests, area and rural deans and even a few brave archdeacons realise that the Plebs-in-the-Pews have just about had enough. By not being honest they lose our respect for the integrity of 'priesthood'.
DeleteI agree with Episkopos.
DeleteThere are no Parishes any more and not much else either.
The local parish priests, area and rural Deans, canons, archdeacons have been presiding over rot and decay for at least forty years, have been watching their flocks disappear week in week out and done nothing except follow meekly behind the pied piper Darth --Insidious.
The few who attempted resistance (eg, Clifford Williams and the authors of the wonderfully satirical Llandaffchester Chronicles) were mistreated, sidelined and disposed of.
The Cult in Wales has more in common with the Chinese Communist Party than Christianity!
Bizarre beyond any parody.
DeleteHow very unwise and lacking in wisdom is the Archbishop to show his obsession with LGBT. Surely a resigning matter.
DeleteLW
Happy Pride.
DeleteTP
Back in the early 1980s, a couple of friends of mine from university days, both priests in Llandaff diocese, made the decision to leave Anglicanism and seek reception into the Roman Catholic church. Sadly I subsequently lost touch with both of them, because the then archbishop of Cardiff apparently advised them to cut contacts with their Anglican friends lest continuing association weaken their resolution to cleave to 'the True Church'.
DeleteBut I still recall the reason which one of them gave in explanation as to why he'd finally 'made the jump' to Rome. He said that he'd finally concluded that, while Welsh Anglican bishops knew all the right liturgical antics, and adopted all the right Catholic canonical togs, it was in reality all a façade, and that at bottom they didn't really believe it anyway. In short, he asserted, he'd come to see the Church in Wales as what he termed 'the joking church'.
At the time I thought that was a hard judgement which went beyond the evidence - at least such evidence as was available at the time. But when I look at this photograph which seems to have triggered AB's piece, I think my former friend was ahead of his time, and that he was prescient. And that I was the one who failed to recognize 'the writing on the wall'!
It sounds to me as though the Catholic Archbishop of Cardiff you describe was a berk or at the very least missed a golden opportunity.
DeletePerhaps he should have trusted his two new converts and encouraged them to maintain contact with their Anglican friends and charged them with converting a few more to "the one true faith".
Who knows, even you might now be a RC John, had the Archbishop done so. 😂 😂
Bizarre John Ellis? Surely not. Have you not read the rewritten chapter 7 of 'A New History of the Church in Wales'? Cambridge University Press 2020. Waffler if ever there was one.
DeleteEnforcer
@ Laughing Gas:
DeleteMaybe the late Archbishop Murphy did indeed miss an opportunity, but forty years ago the times were different. The tendency then, as it had long been, was for Rome to 'closet' neophyte converts least they be lured back to their former 'schismatic' allegiance - as, indeed, another friend of mine who for a while accepted the Roman allegiance was. He ended his days back as an Anglican.
In any case it wouldn't have worked for me. I studied theology for my degree, and one of the clear lessons from my exploration of church history was that the notion of the universal jurisdiction of the bishop of Rome was, in historical terms, entirely fictional, in that the only part of the early church where that doctrine ever took any root - and even then only partial - was in the western patriarchate.
And acceptance of the bishop of Rome's universal jurisdiction is still core to being received and accepted into his communion - even if, these days, they avoid labouring the matter when they nurture converts.
@ Enforcer:
I'm afraid that I'm ignorant of the book which you mention. It's quite some time by now since I kept up to date with any sort of Anglican polemic.
The predictable, coercive behaviour, of an unpredictable bull, commonly known in law as domestic abuse, has always been a key personality feature of the Past Grand Mufti of the Church in Wales.
DeleteWhat domestic filth will he rake up next I wonder. Meanwhile my darlings, revision homework, 'A New History of the Church in Wales' chapter 7 (Cambridge University Press 2020 - spot the real pigs ear).Sorry Norman , no offence meant.
Don't you think its getting exciting? I know, Baldwick has a cunning plan. Why don't we make it on Zoom next time.
Enforcer
John Ellis, I fail to understand why you claim ignorance of the publication 'A New History of the Church in Wales' Edit Norman Doe 2020 Chapter 7 author Barry Morgan.
DeleteHeld 50 years following disestablishment 'The Provincial Court' held at Caernarfon (in public) 1997, under a blaze of publicity, appears to have suffered ecclesiastical dementia. Why was it removed from the first edition of chapter seven? I have previously enquired AB, concerning what appears to be a cover up which now merits a reply. For what purpose were the proceedings of the kangaroo court of 1997, along with the judgment of the Royal Courts of Justice on this 'domestic' law non judicial hearing deleted from this second 'edition '?
Enforcer
I can't speak for John but I am happy to confirm my ignorance of the book for the very simple reason that I flatly refuse to put even a penny into the pocket of that bastard Barry Morgan.
DeleteHe's got absolutely nothing to say that I wish to hear.
Your question concerning revisions to the book are best addressed to the author but there's little point in doing so because you won't get the truth from him anyway.
As for the book the best use to make of it is as toilet paper.
Thank you 1662. The book (The heavily revised version chapter 7, author Barry Morgan, Cambridge University Press), 'A New History of the Church in Wales' came to my attention following the theft of private documents in 2019. In 2021, they were used in another private matter by a safeguarding officer. related to the 1997 Provincial kangaroo Court of the Church in Wales.
DeleteConcerning toilet paper 1662, permit me to recommend 'Aloe Vera' hand and face gel. Lovely smell.
Enforcer
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ReplyDeleteBangor Cathedral lost property displayed on three dummies
ReplyDeleteThat's insulting to all mannequins!
DeleteCuriously the sub dean is passing himself off as a papal chaplain, the lowest grade of monsignor. I wonder he didn't dress up as a domestic prelate or, better still, a protonotary apostolic ad instar! What an ignoramus!
ReplyDeleteMore than anything Evans resembles a pr*ck with ears and doesn't need any papish finery to do so.
DeleteThat the plonker Andrew John (I can no longer give him the courtesy of title) has shoved himself into the photograph is as irrelevant as he is. Its about the only thing he's good at - posing. Concern should be for the mentality of Sion Rhys-Evans who with few if any other attributes enobling him to 'priesthood' except for some unspoken grip he has over the chief Pansy, has elevated himself to pantomime-pope. In this (and unless someone has some quiet and soft words with him/her) he's ridiculing the church and cathedral. Dressing up and impersonating something you are not is, actually, a sign of psychotic insecurity. Idi Amin used to do it, dressing up as a British Field Marshal and when that failed, as a Scottish Clan Chief replete with sporran and Durch ... history is full of them. All failures. They must surely realise that they're being laughed at? What Sion's family and friends in Anglesey make of him - ridicule probably - is anyone's guess but really, for the sake of what's left of the Diocese of Bangor some friend ought to let him know that he's leaving a bad smell in his wake. But of course, as others have noted, there are no clergy who have the guts to open their mouths. 'O Lord, open thou our lips ....' ? You go first vicar!!!
ReplyDeleteOld Bill
Well noted Teilo but I doubt former Methodist (failed) ap-Rhys would know a protonotary from a bottle of plonk! But lest he does and can match his delusions of grandeur to his knowledge of Latin then: Quos Deus vult perdere prius dementat. The poor half-wit is already half way there!!!
ReplyDeleteMore Protoplasm than Protonotary.
DeleteThe new Archbishop - about as much use as a chocolate fireguard.
ReplyDeleteLW
You can see straight away why those with responsibility for discerning a vocation to the ordained ministry were emphatic in their view that Rhys Evans should never have trained for ordination. That Andy Crap was willing to overturn that decision, despite receiving one of the worst ever reports on a candidate sent for selection, tells you everything you might want to know about the quality of archiepiscopal leadership in this Province.
ReplyDeleteRandy Pandy's casting couch 🛋 is well worn.
DeleteEnough is enough! My membership of the C in W has been hanging by a thread for some time in the hope that, somehow, it would re-establish its traditional teachings. This hope has been totally destroyed by the antics of our current archbishop who is proving himself to be a huge blot on the ecclesiastical landscape. His inclusion in recent puerile, childish and thoroughly embarrassing photographs is unworthy of his office,about which he obviously has no understanding. So it's time to go and leave this faux archbishop to complete the demise of the church of which he is supposed to be leader.
ReplyDeleteNemesis
Bravo, good for you and welcome to the Wanderers Club.
DeleteIndeed welcome.
DeleteDon't forget to stop your giving and do your best to persuade as many others to do likewise.
Kick him in the coffers!
Welcome indeed, Nemesis.
DeleteWhat took you so long?
For their sakes, here's hoping you're bringing lots of family and friends along with you.
All help to collapse the Cult in Wales received gratefully.
Good for you.
DeleteYou're not the first and you certainly won't be the last.
Sunday regulars must be well below 15,000 by now and the RB are desperate to maintain the cover up.
I have it on good authority that the Llandaff Parish 9 service - once the gold standard - has now become little more than a school assembly, devoid of its former excellent choir.
DeleteLW
The Llandaff Cathedral Parish Choir reached its zenith during Harry Joyce's tenure, went badly downhill after that until Morley Lewis took it on and rebuilt it. Unfortunately, the Choir never recovered from Morley's premature departure thanks to the duo of Bonaparte and Moorhouse.
DeleteAnother disgraceful example of a hard working and faithful servant used, abused and disposed of by the Cult in Wales.
I'm grateful for these reassuring comments. My decision didn't come without considerable anguish but it was the only course available to me in view of what has become a disaster for the Church to which I have previously been proud to belong. I have certainly stopped my giving and I've diverted the funds to charity where they will do much more good. I'm happy to report that several friends are also on the point of taking similar action as they can no longer tolerate what's happening in the current C in W.
ReplyDeleteNemesis
Very few bother attending the Sunday morning Cathedral service in Llandaff any more and the vast majority of those at the Parish service are only there because they need to be to get their kids into Llandaff City Junior school or the Bishop of Llandaff High school.
DeleteOnce the kids are in the High school both the kids and parents usually stop attending.
That's nothing new but it's far more obvious now so many long serving faithful traditionalists have voted with their feet.
DeleteThe Capon has now gone, mercifully.
DeleteBangor council ran out of funds for its gardening department so they had to make do with two pansies and a weed.
ReplyDeleteMathafarn Eithaf
Randy Pandy and his sub(normal) Dean unveil their preferred candidate for the vacancy at the Llandaff Deanery.
ReplyDeleteQueueing for the casting of the ugly sisters at this year`s performance of Cinderella at Pontio.
ReplyDeleteMathafarn Eithaf
Sensible curtailing of the communion chalice during the COVID crisis is now, thankfully, behind us. But given today's London Public Health Executive renewed warnings over Gay Pride, LGBTQ+ parades and unnecessary skin-touch contact with (active) homosexuals (of which there are above average numbers per capita as C-in-W 'priests') should we in the Diocese of Bangor and those cathedral communicants in Bangor particularly check with Ecclesiastical Insurance before glad-handing certain clergy ... or accepting the Wafer from their fingers??? Monkeypox appears to be rife and in UK higher now than any other European country after its jump from central and west Africa. Health warnings regarding skin-sweat touch are serious. Gay Rights paraders are now being urged to stay at home. Instead of incense being wafted around the Altar perhaps Dettol spray or even DDT ... or better still, LGBTQ+ celebrating priests should take the Public Health medical officers' advise ... and stay at home until Monkeypox is wiped out. (Before you comment TP: I have nothing against monkeys...!)
ReplyDeleteOld Bill
I see we've crossed the boundary from generic homophobia to cartoonish 1980s-style gay panic, but I suspect that's because the 1980s was the last time most of you understood the world...
DeleteAlso, I'm not sure what you're doing when you go up for communion, but the last time I checked, catching Monkeypox require some sort of significant physical contact (i.e more than a single touch of hands) even with the potential for transmission through sweat!
Scarlet
That sounds like TP in drag.
DeleteNot me - but 100 per cent agree with Scarlet.
DeleteTP
No.
DeleteIt's definitely you trying to pull a fast one.
Your writing style and spelling mistakes give you away.
Not at all. You're not as clever as you think. But go on, have the last word, why don't you.
DeleteTP
OK, since you insist, I will.
DeleteAt least you've got the correct "you're" this time.
Gold star.
And don't forget to end your questions with a question mark.
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I never thought I’d see a photo where Andy John looks to be the most intelligent person in the photo!
ReplyDeletePlease refer to the previous thread of 19th May entitled "Disaster looms closer" for confirmation that he remains as thick as ever!
DeleteOr the most normal abnormal.
DeleteThe BBC is plugging away at it again.
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Stop paying the TV licence tax.
DeleteNothing will change unless and until the silent majority do so.
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DeleteI couldn't possibly agree with you more.
And again.
DeleteIs it a slow news Friday or something?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-61996126
It must be, here's more.
Deletehttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-62010839
"Normalise queer community"
Jesus would never have been seen alongside non-heterosexual people.
ReplyDeleteAnd what is the basis for that assertion?
Delete(it's a joke)
DeleteDo Baptists get sarcasm?
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In this case - I didn't!
DeleteNever mind, you have confessed and your sins are forgiven but for penance you must say one hundred times "Hail Pride, full of disgrace".
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Searching for an address, I've just been askede by Royal Mail if I would like to celebrate a landmark in British history by buying Pride Stamps, featuring gay and lesbian themes surmounted by the Queen's head! Do you imagine they asked permission of the Supreme Governor of the Church of England?
ReplyDeleteProbably too busy hobnobbing with tax collectors and prostitutes.
ReplyDeleteEven "Eastenders" is to be used by Auntie to promote the LGBTQIA cause.
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All designed to corrupt and influence more and more young people into accepting flagrant exhibitionism as "normal", for the sake of less than 2% of the general population.
Have any of you heard the one about the young woman who jokes about being a "female disabled lesbian who's also a feminist and Christian" and was "worried about finding her community"?
DeleteWell you have now.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/disability-62011918
'Dad had to carry me up the stairs to the LGBT party'
She feels discriminated against by the LGBT brigade no less!
And does anyone else have even the faintest idea what intersectionality is or means?
Bewildered.
Sad to say Teilo, that yes, HM The Queen would have approved the final design 'essay' of the stamps; they having first gone through process of Royal Mail (now a listed public company of course) approval, then the Stamp Advisory Committee then on to HM's desk. Once she gives consent, printing can begin. Unfortunately, as we now know, she could not have sought the advise of Archbishop Postman Pat in Bangor as he's 'stamped' his mark on Royal Rubuff by snubbing her. Perhaps sub-dean Rhys might have had some comment to say about the 'licking' quality as he seems expert in that brown-nose backside department. But yes: HM approval is necessary.
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Following on from the "Brainwashed" thread, there is a fascinating article on Jordan Peterson in the magazine of todays Daily Telegraph.
ReplyDeleteThe deviant exhibitionists are out in force today, the BBC providing them with maximum exposure while Sadiq Khan praises the Metropolitan police for being "sensitive" to the feelings of the LGBTQIA communities.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-62020418
How many churches will they be calling in to visit on their route to book their gay blessings and gay weddings while draping their rainbows everywhere?
I've been to a 50th anniversary of priesting in the diocese of Gloucester, today. Conversation overheard. How lovely to see so many priests in cassocks, today. Yes, in the Diocese of Llandaff, we only get pretty frocks, earrings and pink cardies!
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That's so unfair.
DeleteDon't forget the Rum Pansies and pink Gins.
You ought to see what the women are wearing !!!
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How do you know they're women?
DeleteQueen Cakes instead of Communion Bread at Bangor Cathedral.
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You’re comments are not helpful.
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You would know.
Delete"Your" favourite topic of conversation.
This doesn't need a caption. It needs a soundtrack. I propose the theme tune to the Benny Hill Show.
ReplyDelete😂 😂 😂
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Is that even technologically possible Ancient Briton?
Or the hymn tune to "O God our help in ages past ..."
ReplyDeleteKorben the shallow callow youth hits the BBC headlines once more.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-62080994
The cult of celebrity and the queer agenda roll on.
Presumably, AB, you've seen this little gem in last Friday's Church Times. Other contributors may have some insights and observations on the detail in job description.
ReplyDeletehttps://jobs.churchtimes.co.uk/jobs/Dean-of-Llandaff-in-Wales-jn10329
Three Faces Of Eve
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