tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4019954714374602353.post7258802750293329358..comments2024-03-28T09:17:03.940+00:00Comments on AncientBriton: Another jolly!AncientBritonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12357913998344777403noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4019954714374602353.post-87780017360390719802018-06-11T19:13:06.205+01:002018-06-11T19:13:06.205+01:00real good news, for a change, from the Middle East...real good news, for a change, from the Middle East - maybe Llandaff Pilgrimage to Iraq 2023! IRAQ PULSE<br />Iraq's Christians, Muslims agree to revive site of ancient church<br />Saad Salloum June 8, 2018<br /><br />A lunch meeting between a Christian tour group and local Muslims during Ramadan resulted in an initiative to save one of Iraq’s oldest churches.<br /><br /><br /> <br />Ruins of the Church of Kokheh, built by Saint Mari in the first century, screenshot from video uploaded 28 January 2018.<br />BAGHDAD — A group of Christians from Baghdad who visited the ruins of the Church of Kokheh, located 20 miles south of the Iraqi capital, were spontaneously invited by the local Muslim community for lunch after their tour.<br />The historical Church of Kokheh is one of the early points of departure of Christianity in the Middle East, Father Mansour al-Makhlissi, founder and head of the Centre for Eastern Studies at the Roman Catholic Church in Baghdad, told the visitors as he took them around the site of the church on 25 May. “It was the patriarchal residence of the Eastern Church for centuries,” he said, adding that 24 patriarchs were buried in the church built by Saint Mariin the first century.<br />Over the past 20 years, Christians could not visit the remnants of the church due to safety concerns, most recently due to the attacks by the Islamic State.<br />With the area now more secure, the Centre for Eastern Studies organized the visit to the Church of Kokheh. Geraint ap Iorwerthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03759637601537682526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4019954714374602353.post-80323578778167534422018-06-05T20:35:10.405+01:002018-06-05T20:35:10.405+01:00Dear Watchman, rest assured - Jeremy Thorpe died a...Dear Watchman, rest assured - Jeremy Thorpe died about four years ago. It was only a bad dream. The real nightmare is yet to happen when the deluded and uneducated members of Governing Body - bishops included - will traipse through the 'yes' lobby and dump same-sex marriage on us. At that point, the Church in Wales will become a secularized sect - if it isn't already now. The bishops will still insist that they are bishops and carry on wearing their bishops' garb, but that's only because they enjoy dressing up. Yet the Church will have abandoned her Lord and his teaching, and he will abandon her. As the prophet Amos said, "Fallen to rise no more is the Virgin Israel, forsaken on her land with none to raise her up." Even though history is cyclical, and what happened to Israel will happen to the CiW, the bishops drive headlong towards destruction. <br /><br /><br />Seymour<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4019954714374602353.post-91671052062992062182018-06-05T15:53:54.794+01:002018-06-05T15:53:54.794+01:00Yes, planet Juno Patron.
Added to your list could...Yes, planet Juno Patron. <br />Added to your list could be the cost of travel insurance or will the diocese be underwriting that as well?<br />ChloeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4019954714374602353.post-68427978213078713632018-06-05T15:06:46.816+01:002018-06-05T15:06:46.816+01:00Serious questions arise:-
What sort of training a...Serious questions arise:-<br /><br />What sort of training and how does it benefit members of a congregation?<br />Can we be told exactly how much it will cost and where the money is coming from?<br />Where will it be held in Santiago de Compostela, and where will clergy be accommodated?<br />Who has the Bishop consulted on this decision? Has she asked regular churchgoers?<br />Why is the chosen location better than St Padams which has bishop and clergy on the doorstep, a Cathedral, a theological college, the city of Cardiff and Cardiff Bay accessible all at a fraction of the cost?<br />Is the Bishop on a different planet?<br /><br />Patron<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4019954714374602353.post-9018396205404553452018-06-05T11:13:17.897+01:002018-06-05T11:13:17.897+01:00PP. Interesting comments about the value for money...PP. Interesting comments about the value for money of the jolly pilgrimage. But, the one point that I have full agreement with is Danny Jones'. The serious one model fits all, is an out dated blanket gun hoe approach. Indeed it does not bring well battle hardened clergy better armed or, resourced. Each cleric needs his/her own personal training plan, using the noted funds to ensure they have greater knowledge. Other denominations, hold clergy schools, plan one to one training, provide funds and resources. What is clearly wrong with the CiW model is: accountability, focused training, and mission strategy. Sadly, this jolly pilgrimage, is looking more grandstanding than any form of good investment in dwindling clergy numbers. I wait to see the names of guests, guest speakers who will inevitably be part of this project. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4019954714374602353.post-33432273522297189002018-06-05T10:19:57.407+01:002018-06-05T10:19:57.407+01:00Hope, please don't blame the clergy, they are ...Hope, please don't blame the clergy, they are forced to go on this training and have no option. Without it they risk not being relicensed as it is considered essential training as most professionals now do.the difference is that in the real world there are lots of ways to do professional training including on line at very low cost. In the real world you also choose training that makes a difference to the job you do and area you do it. CiW is one product fits all so often the training makes no difference at parish level. Danny Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03042779339886519385noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4019954714374602353.post-16762676663151064902018-06-05T09:03:05.281+01:002018-06-05T09:03:05.281+01:00Dear A.B.
Last night I awoke from a nightmare wher...Dear A.B.<br />Last night I awoke from a nightmare where Jeremy Thorpe had been made a bishop of the Anglican church.<br />Do tell me that it was only a bad dream and not a portent of things to come.<br />Lots of Luuuv.<br />The Watchman.The Watchmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14171719226188625050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4019954714374602353.post-17722214517680886352018-06-03T20:53:20.190+01:002018-06-03T20:53:20.190+01:00The odds of them dipping their hands into collecti...The odds of them dipping their hands into collection plates against them dipping their hands into their own purses are 100-1.<br />BetFrednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4019954714374602353.post-78851372549222499212018-06-03T19:44:34.428+01:002018-06-03T19:44:34.428+01:00If the clergy need a pilgrimage, what about the la...If the clergy need a pilgrimage, what about the lay people? Is pilgrimage only valid for clergy? Dear Bishop - I want to go on this pilgrimage to Santiago as a pewsitter and contributor to church funds. How do I apply?<br />BattleaxeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4019954714374602353.post-37620047324031311362018-06-03T18:21:14.619+01:002018-06-03T18:21:14.619+01:00At our 9:0 a m service this morning there were15 w...At our 9:0 a m service this morning there were15 women and 1 man besides our non resident priest. Of the women only three are not widows. The youngest is in her late sixties and the oldest in her nintythird year. Being first to return to my seat following communion, I sadly watched all my old friends return to their pews, most were limping, some more so than others, holding on to other’s arms, and some with bent backs and most looking worn but still faithful to their church and the collection plate. Later I thought about these recent posts and June’s Jollies, and feeling disillusioned, but being a day dreamer, thought, what a wonderful Christian gesture it would be if the Bishop’s et al gave up their trip to Spain and used the money to charter some buses to send these faithful servants on a free trip to Walsingham. But as I said, I am a dreamer. One thing I do know, if any of the priests in my ministry area take up June’s offer to go on the Spanish ‘pilgrimage’ I will probably,in future, be spending my Sunday mornings nearer to God’s heart, in my garden.<br />Hope.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4019954714374602353.post-48371594868803380532018-06-03T16:20:45.835+01:002018-06-03T16:20:45.835+01:00What's the former Presiding Bishop going to te...What's the former Presiding Bishop going to teach our two lady Bishops through her mentorship? Heresy, mismanagement, disunity, profligacy, victimisation, negligence and downright nastiness?<br /><br />Why on earth would you seek the advice of someone utterly tainted by her disastrous term as Presiding Bishop.<br /> <br />The only good she did was inadvertently help create the ACNA. Whamabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15182160966074081164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4019954714374602353.post-24809375680253952002018-06-03T13:21:12.223+01:002018-06-03T13:21:12.223+01:00Joanna & June have been to the states. For men...Joanna & June have been to the states. For mentoring. OK. Presuming they can't access mentoring in the British Isles (highly unlikely) how is this travel, plus accommodation, plus expenses being funded? Training Budget? Discretionary Fund? Again, it all smacks of a lack of transparency and accountability. When someone said that the ordination of women would change the culture of the Church, they weren't kidding, were they?Athelstan Rileynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4019954714374602353.post-40479005674219467672018-06-02T23:20:45.568+01:002018-06-02T23:20:45.568+01:00A long time ago, before the ordination of women, a...A long time ago, before the ordination of women, a priest friend of mine (who was NOT, as it happened, against the ordination of women to the priesthood) declared that the best argument at that time against ordaining women priests was the women who wanted to be priests. Now we see how right he was! Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15753349343005961587noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4019954714374602353.post-67832164171887218442018-06-02T22:51:40.716+01:002018-06-02T22:51:40.716+01:00It cannot go unremarked Ancient Briton.
Congratul...It cannot go unremarked Ancient Briton.<br /><br />Congratulations on another milestone - 1.7 million views.<br /><br />The unholy trinity above, along with the Dark --Lord and his glove puppet, are among your best recruiting agents.1662noreply@blogger.com