tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4019954714374602353.post1587760810789475085..comments2024-03-28T09:17:03.940+00:00Comments on AncientBriton: How bad does it have to get?AncientBritonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12357913998344777403noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4019954714374602353.post-75532784080134147252017-07-01T21:47:29.624+01:002017-07-01T21:47:29.624+01:00So now you speak with certainty about how Christ w...So now you speak with certainty about how Christ would have reacted to a "religion" that only came into existence some 600 years after he lived and died having left the message of God and the new covenant with us.<br /><br />What utter misguided sheer arrogance.What would Jesus say?noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4019954714374602353.post-33028500116274684292017-07-01T09:00:49.900+01:002017-07-01T09:00:49.900+01:00Thank you Whamab - I suppose it comes down to how ...Thank you Whamab - I suppose it comes down to how you approach interfaith dialogue: in this regard, I've recently found Professor Gavin D'Costa's work ( e.g. Only One Way? Three Christian Responses on the Uniqueness of Christ in a Religiously Plural World SCM, London, 2011) really helpful in thinking through some of the issues beginning to be intelligibly discussed here. D'Costa is Professor of Catholic Theology at Bristol and well worth reading if you're looking to be challenged in your thinking in this area.Scapegoathttp://www.scapegoat.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4019954714374602353.post-5018494171697413252017-06-29T18:33:05.539+01:002017-06-29T18:33:05.539+01:00First, going to an Iftar is not an act of worship,...First, going to an Iftar is not an act of worship, participating in the prayers that surround it is. <br /><br />All the Muslims I know are kind, generous, polite people; this must be due to their values to some degree. Like Scapegoat says it is a complex situation, Islam can be anything you want it to be due to the Qu'ran being made up of generally contradictory statements. Peace and tolerance on one hand, violence and oppression on the other. How far they apply their doctrine of abrogation is subjective it seems to me.<br /><br />At the end of the day the many Muslims I know are nothing to be afraid of but like all non-Christians they need salvation only found in Christ.Whamabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15182160966074081164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4019954714374602353.post-20565509825804233022017-06-29T17:58:23.050+01:002017-06-29T17:58:23.050+01:00He also warned "Watch out for false prophets....He also warned "Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves." It's the ideology Scapegoat, not all Muslims. They too need to be saved. AncientBritonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12357913998344777403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4019954714374602353.post-90289451707746533862017-06-29T16:38:43.621+01:002017-06-29T16:38:43.621+01:00The only reason I can think of fraternising with M...The only reason I can think of fraternising with Muslims is the certainty that Jesus would have; he seemed to fraternise with those of other religious persuasions and held up the Samaritan as a person of great goodness. That's the opinion I would hold - not especially liberal but perhaps christian?Scapegoathttp://www.scapegoat.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4019954714374602353.post-84154025758394721122017-06-29T08:42:04.552+01:002017-06-29T08:42:04.552+01:00BUT people in the West have religious freedom.
Eit...BUT people in the West have religious freedom.<br />Either Allah is the same as Jehovah - in which case peace-loving Muslims can leave Islam with its negative connotations and become a Christian.<br />Or Allah is a supernatural being in opposition to Jehovah. Christians need to be very scared of all Muslims. There is a spiritual battle going on.<br />Or Allah does not exist. Islam is just a cultural club, like the cricket club or the scouts.<br />Which 'opinion' do the liberals hold?<br />In any of the three cases, there is no reason for a Christian to fraternise with Muslims, other than to befriend them and try to rescue them.Evangelical Edhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09393283334628401985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4019954714374602353.post-73397117676505474122017-06-29T07:58:25.502+01:002017-06-29T07:58:25.502+01:00I don't subscribe to the view that any perceiv...I don't subscribe to the view that any perceived warmth towards Islam is a "liberal ideology of wishy-washy niceness" - many of us work on a daily basis with Muslims who look upon the hijacking of their religion with equal abhorrence. I'd say it was naive to lump all Muslims together when our experience tells us that the absolute majority are people of peace and pose no threat to us or our society. You only have to watch the news and see innocent (Muslim) children pulled out of the rubble of desolation and destruction to know that anything other than a nuanced understanding of Islam would be in danger of failing to see that theirs is the greater threat; anything other than "niceness" towards them would be a travesty. The situation is hugely complex and a brushstroke approach is perhaps both partronising and potentially unjust.Scapegoathttp://www.scapegoat.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4019954714374602353.post-43534551412593604962017-06-28T20:06:43.242+01:002017-06-28T20:06:43.242+01:00Jesuit Father Boulad said that "Islam is an o...Jesuit Father Boulad said that "Islam is an open ended declaration of war against non-Muslims"<br /><br />Under the pretext of Christian charity and tolerance ,some Christians and Christian leaders are following a naive liberal ideology of wishy-washy niceness towards Islam,which is destroying the Church and the West. <br />Christians and Christian leaders who share iftar and prayers to Allah are side lining Christ and in their ruinous ignorance are persecutors of Christ.<br />Simple soulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06820918875811010809noreply@blogger.com