tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4019954714374602353.post5878229006994858531..comments2024-03-28T09:17:03.940+00:00Comments on AncientBriton: Opinionated obfuscantsAncientBritonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12357913998344777403noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4019954714374602353.post-37269158917753294462014-02-22T11:00:10.036+00:002014-02-22T11:00:10.036+00:00Your postscript by David Ould on Real Love is chal...Your postscript by David Ould on Real Love is challenging. I recently read elsewhere the following:<br />" For the Lord Jesus loves all, and loved His enemies, even kissing Judas and calling him friend at the moment of betrayal. "<br /><br />In the video clip 'Mutual Flourishing' Archbishop Welby says that " love cannot be demonstrated if it is refused".<br />I do not think that type of love can be the love of Christ?<br />Does + Welby mean that those who cannot accept women in the priesthood should accept whatever is offered in terms of arrangements ,because the offering has been given the label of love ; if we refuse then it is our fault!Simple soulnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4019954714374602353.post-4356022974677577152014-02-20T14:16:58.120+00:002014-02-20T14:16:58.120+00:00Thank you both for bringing me ' up to speed &...Thank you both for bringing me ' up to speed '!Simple soulnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4019954714374602353.post-272074249468612102014-02-19T23:36:06.443+00:002014-02-19T23:36:06.443+00:00Simple Soul, please see also Thinking Anglicans
h...Simple Soul, please see also Thinking Anglicans<br /> http://www.thinkinganglicans.org.uk/archives/005831.html<br />and a previous entry http://ancientbritonpetros.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/echoes.htmlAncientBritonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12357913998344777403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4019954714374602353.post-29815567065187330492014-02-19T22:52:45.689+00:002014-02-19T22:52:45.689+00:00Fr North had been appointed by the Archbishop of Y...Fr North had been appointed by the Archbishop of York and his appointment had been confirmed by The Queen. They had every confidence in him - confidence which he apparently did not share, and chickened out, thereby costing traditionalists in the province of York the opportunity to have a bishop sympathetic to their concerns. <br />Insidernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4019954714374602353.post-43541126233996950822014-02-19T22:52:21.209+00:002014-02-19T22:52:21.209+00:00Simple Soul,
+York saw very well how Fr North wou...Simple Soul,<br /><br />+York saw very well how Fr North would have fitted in. York wanted Fr North to be bishop of Whitby. Fr North has for years welcomed female ordinands on year-long placements in his thriving parish, out of respect for the people concerned and the plurality of views which is supposed to be tolerated in the Cof E.<br /><br />The Whitby campaigners were led by the husband of a woman priest, and objected to the appointment because it was clear that North would not ordain women priests. The Blackburn campaign was preemptive and indeed exclusive, to prevent a repetition of the Whitby scenario by the appointment of a bishop who would not ordain women priests. Alannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4019954714374602353.post-30276529073069311532014-02-19T19:13:36.869+00:002014-02-19T19:13:36.869+00:00Is it possible to clarify the following sentence p...Is it possible to clarify the following sentence please?<br />"negative single-issue campaigners got their way and blocked Fr North's appointment in spite (literally) of his very open and supportive attitude to women priests and ordinands whose ministry he nontheless cannot accept "<br /> <br />As far as I can see it is a separate issue having the right qualities for a Bishop from the issue of being suitable for election. I suppose that the Archbishop of York could not see how Fr.North could 'fit in'.<br />Is it not fundamentally contradictory to have a supportive attitude to women priests and yet not able to accept them?Simple soulnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4019954714374602353.post-13690206106516859422014-02-19T11:07:35.915+00:002014-02-19T11:07:35.915+00:00Alan - it is all part of what Archbishop Welby pol...Alan - it is all part of what Archbishop Welby politely calls a 'cultural change', but it is ,in fact, a cultural revolution and the plan is to ' purify ' the whole set up. A similar purging of dissenters took place in the Medical profession in the field of Obstetrics when abortion was legalised in this country. A doctor who made it know that he or she was not prepared to undertake abortions was unlikely to be appointed to a senior post.Simple soulnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4019954714374602353.post-30952385751979175542014-02-18T22:50:18.652+00:002014-02-18T22:50:18.652+00:00All this talk about the lack of suitable male cand...All this talk about the lack of suitable male candidates, but never a word about those who have been passed over as "unsuitable" because they 'don't get it', as David Cameron would no doubt say. <br />regarding Women Priests and Bishops and sundry other Liberal issues.<br /><br />There was, for instance, recently a very good candidate for one of the vacant sees (at least it is still officially vacant, if it is not suppressed): Fr North who was destined for Whitby. But despite the Archbishop of York, who is clearly pro-Women Priests and Bishops, believing that Fr North possess the gifts for an episcopal cure, a group of negative single-issue campaigners got their way and blocked Fr North's appointment in spite (literally) of his very open and supportive attitude to women priests and ordinands whose ministry he nontheless cannot accept. Indeed, even the 'anti' campaigners said he is a good priest, but they still decided to ruin the situation because only one "side" must win, and only one side may have prizes. Imagine the fuss had the reverse been true, and all the Shocked & Outraged cries concerning persecuted women, hard-done-by Liberals, and the need for the CofE to be 'in touch' (but only with a vociferous self-obssessed focus group). <br /><br />Consider again the diktat of an identical group of campaigners in the diocese of Blackburn, to block any suggestion of an appointment which did not conform to their own personal agenda. They too had their way. Imagine once again a reverse situation and the consequent outcry and wailing and gnashing of the teeth of Liberal Anglicans. <br /><br />Or consider, yet again, the the hundreds of male priests who left the CofE post-1992 and more recently for the Ordinariate. Either the CofE must recognise that their ordination selection procedure was fatally flawed for décades, churning out only Duds that have gone 'elsewhere' and that the Church is better off without - or they that they made a fatal mistake by driving away the very 'stock' they now recognise they need. <br /><br /><br /><br />Alannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4019954714374602353.post-4434810653561263482014-02-18T22:20:23.371+00:002014-02-18T22:20:23.371+00:00Can you be an orthodox ( woman) priest and a misan...Can you be an orthodox ( woman) priest and a misandrist?Simple soulnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4019954714374602353.post-75333088128522992442014-02-18T21:44:44.780+00:002014-02-18T21:44:44.780+00:00"She looks forward to the blessing of same-se..."She looks forward to the blessing of same-sex partnerships"<br /><br />Of course.<br /><br />Is there such a thing as an orthodox woman priest?<br /><br />Insidernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4019954714374602353.post-71327751103255177842014-02-18T19:19:44.472+00:002014-02-18T19:19:44.472+00:00I am not inclined to give much credence to the Gua...I am not inclined to give much credence to the Guardian : authoritarian left and feminist. Simple soulnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4019954714374602353.post-60233397099086596332014-02-18T15:34:27.628+00:002014-02-18T15:34:27.628+00:00The article from the Guardian is clearly prepping ...The article from the Guardian is clearly prepping the population for things to come. Undergroundpewsterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10182191422663119484noreply@blogger.com